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post #71 of 80
water cooling has been out a lot longer then you think.

the test machines at my work are over 30 years old and their water cooled with a chiller. (needs to be below 30c)

to me water cooling was a huge headache. but i couldnt really completely get out of it. so i bought a H100 lol.
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not with any of the chips coming out as of late.
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post #73 of 80
no.. never...

Water cooling is geared not only for those who wants performance not obtainable by air, but also for those who likes to have that performance readily available in a silent environment, be it folding or gaming, etc..
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post #74 of 80
When transistors get smaller then resulting chips do not tend to run cooler as chip engineers just pack more of these transistors into same volume. Putting more of them in the same volume, usually running at higher frequency can increase the power density - plus the smaller you make it the harder it will be to keep it from leaking.

Water cooling is still a niche, but this thing aint going anywhere anytime soon. Would not surprise me if in the future higher end CPU's engineered for performance instead of power savings n stufff would be shipping with all-in-one closed loops or just without any cooler and big label on it "if you OC you be better watercooling it".
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post #75 of 80
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Originally Posted by Carniflex View Post

When transistors get smaller then resulting chips do not tend to run cooler as chip engineers just pack more of these transistors into same volume. Putting more of them in the same volume, usually running at higher frequency can increase the power density - plus the smaller you make it the harder it will be to keep it from leaking.
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still waiting on a CPU with a built in waterblock for direct die cooling. instead of going throw solder-IHS-thermalpaste then block.
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AUS

I now understand this thread.
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>>Still waiting on those 5.1 screenies tongue.gifheadscratch.gif
 
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The difference on water is you don't have the sound of an airplane taking off biggrin.gif
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post #79 of 80
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still waiting on a CPU with a built in waterblock for direct die cooling. instead of going throw solder-IHS-thermalpaste then block.

haha that sounds like a hell of an idea! ... i like it! I won't get my hopes up though
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you probably dont notice it america but in AUS there is limited variety when it comes to watercooling. it is pretty pricey as well suggesting the market for it is small. a $50 air cooler is a lot more difficult and expensive to manufacture than a waterblock. why is that waterblocks cost the same price?
watercooling is good at cooling although it is costly and time consuming, im just not sure whether such levels of cooling will be required in the future. heatpipe air coolers are water coolers technically (there is a working fluid inside the heatpipes) its just that they have a small radiator and they dump heat in the case rather than outside.
people can get the i5 2500k to hit 4.5ghz @1.3v on high end air and stay below 60 degrees full load. there is barely any real world performance difference between 5.0ghz and 4.5ghz. 60 degrees is a perfectly fine. isnt this good enough? if you watercooled instead you might get 45 degrees on full load? how does it matter, you are well below tj max and you will most likely replace your CPU before it breaks due to that 15 degrees for extra heat...
now think what is going to happen with newer components. the 28nm gpus are significantly cooler than the 32nm. im imagining 22nm CPUs will run much cooler than 32nm cpus.

Well that's the 7970's and 680's of today. But reportedly, the 780's (or GK110's I think) will have an output of between 200-300w (300w is probably with OC's). That's not much of a difference with today's 580's at 244w TDP (say 300w with OC's also). Remember, you're not just cooling the GPU or CPU. With full cover blocks, you're cooling the VRM's and other components on a card. So while what came out recently is more efficient and less power hungry, the REAL next big cards will be just as hot (ok maybe a little less...).

I'm probably of your opinion for the current video cards not needing more than air (maybe a diffrent air cooled HS to reduce noise?!). But the new IB's might need something more than just water also from the looks of it. I'll wait and see reviews, if the thing can't clock to 5 Ghz without exceeding max temps on water then I won't even bother with them.
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