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Hi,

My 295 is getting old. It works, but I'm really no longer a fan of all the SLI issues, the terrible heat efficiency, lack of dx10, low vram, and having to overclock it by 25% just to barely keep up in most games.

I'm itching to replace it with a 680 BUT the locked voltage irks me.

Is it even worth liquid cooling a relativity cool-running card that has no voltage control? If I cant pump more volts into it, will it ever get warm enough to warrant liquid cooling and if so, will liquid actually give it a SUBSTANTIALLY higher OC potential?

Should I drop the money on a waterblock for a 680 or should I just bide my time with the stock cooler for 6 months or whatever however long it takes to sell it off and buy a GK112 + waterblock?

Is GK112 even known to have voltage control? I would assume so since it's keplar's REAL high end card but that doesn't really mean anything.

Please keep in mind that I already have a 360 and a 240 BI GTX with high powered fans in push-pull config. It's only logical to liquid cool the video card when I have that much money (and decibels) invested into radiators, and I would only have to buy a 680 waterblock, not a whole loop, but that's still 100ish bucks that may be completely wasted if what I've been hearing about 680 temps and overclocking are true.
Edited by Zero4549 - 4/17/12 at 7:27pm
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Well I'm pretty sure 680s with unlocked voltage are coming soon. Don't hold me to it, though. Honestly (this is just me) I think air-cooling is fine for a single card. Unless you have multiple cards all very near each other, water-cooling is kind of silly for one card imo. As long as you have a good airflow in your case, it should be fine. Or, you can wait for a non-ref 680 with non-ref cooling. Up to you, though.
     
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Well I'm pretty sure 680s with unlocked voltage are coming soon. Don't hold me to it, though. Honestly (this is just me) I think air-cooling is fine for a single card. Unless you have multiple cards all very near each other, water-cooling is kind of silly for one card imo. As long as you have a good airflow in your case, it should be fine. Or, you can wait for a non-ref 680 with non-ref cooling. Up to you, though.

Well, you could argue that my 295 is a single card, but without liquid cooling, it would never achieve the overclocks I have it running at 24/7 stable, and as such it would have to have been replaced a year or so ago. As such, dropping $100 on a waterblock for it actually saved me money in the long run.

That said, the 295 IS an internal-sli card, and a hot one at that, and those OC results were only possible because of increased voltage.

So like you said, liquid cooling a true single card (with good heat management at stock) with no voltage control does seem overkill.



All that said, I'm looking for more hard evidence focused specifically on the 680, not just video cards and liquid cooling in general.
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Watercooling can lead to 2 different results (or a third, if you're into e-peen)

1.) Overclock & overvolt to increase perforamnce.

2.) To make a loud card silent.

Think which would help you out. You could silence a GTX680 with watercooling even without overvolting.

Or get a 7970 (7950 is an even better deal with some reaching $380, with a high overvolt and overclock ceiling) and overvolt and overclock the hell out of it.

Your money, Your choices.
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Watercooling can lead to 2 different results (or a third, if you're into e-peen)
1.) Overclock & overvolt to increase perforamnce.
2.) To make a loud card silent.
Think which would help you out. You could silence a GTX680 with watercooling even without overvolting.
Or get a 7970 (7950 is an even better deal with some reaching $380, with a high overvolt and overclock ceiling) and overvolt and overclock the hell out of it.
Your money, Your choices.

silence is not really a factor in my loop. I've got 2 black ice GTX rads each in push-pull with high speed panaflo fans. In case you're not familiar, these fans are 38mm thick 103 CFM 42 dB fans, and the radiators are the densest (and as such loudest) on the market. This machine is anything but silent. I wear closed headphones when at this rig just to hear myself think wink.gif

As such, the only purpose of liquid cooling for me is to obtain better overclocks. So again, is it at all worth liquid cooling a gtx 680 for the sake of overclocking despite its locked voltage?

I'm not interested in AMD. I've used several generations of their products. They're alright. Ever since switching to Nvidia though, things have just plain gone smoother. It's worth the small premium in price.
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I wouldn't hold your breath on any kind of voltage control with the 680 even through no ref board members, thing is on Kepler there is no more shader clock and everything relies on a delicate system of voltage control to the various clusters of differently allocated Cuda cores.
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I wouldn't hold your breath on any kind of voltage control with the 680 even through no ref board members, thing is on Kepler there is no more shader clock and everything relies on a delicate system of voltage control to the various clusters of differently allocated Cuda cores.

well theres a news thread on colorful's new redonkulus 680 with a billion and a half heatsinks sticking out of it like sails on a sail board.

Apparently, it has dual 8 pin power and a detachable VRM daughterboard.

Wild speculation, but what would be the point of all that if it doesnt also include voltage control?
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I would wait for wait for the non-ref cards, and someone else to do the tests first.
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well theres a news thread on colorful's new redonkulus 680 with a billion and a half heatsinks sticking out of it like sails on a sail board.
Apparently, it has dual 8 pin power and a detachable VRM daughterboard.
Wild speculation, but what would be the point of all that if it doesnt also include voltage control?

Honestly if it doesn't have voltage control, don't bother watercooling...
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