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Just saw the pictures,

I think there is no compelling reason to upgrade from my 2600k

Maybe skip until 14nm processors?

No-one should have been expecting 2500k/2600k owners to want to upgrade ever...
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This
Ivy Bridge sells with 95W TDP, but uses a maximum of 77W
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/69-cpu-chipset/45738-ivy-bridge-sells-with-95w-tdp-but-uses-a-maximum-of-77w.html

Good call from intel.... As overclockers. we dont need to see less vrm's being put on motherboards, although the new Z77 boards overall have less power phases than previous Z68 and P67.

It's not the amount of phases, its the quality that matters. I'd take a 4+1 VRM board with great VRMs and a great design over a 8+2 board with average design and VRMs.


What I want to know is what its max safe temperature is. Sure, just under 90c is too high for SB or Nehalems but what if that's nothing for IB? Any modern chip will downclock if it overheats, so there's no risk of damage. Every Intel chip since the Pentium 4 has done it.
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I expect it with the billions that intel spends in R&D to have a 2nd generation Ivy come out probably near Q3 this year or around the beginning of 2013....

The lower voltage looks good but the heat seems to be quite an issue. On the other hand. I think this might be better on laptops since the chips are without the heatspreader, which is probably the primary reason why Ivy runs so hot...
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What I got from the results is this, if you have a sandy chip hang tight till 14nm.

There's a good chance that newer revisions, or the 22nm Haswell CPUs may do much better in terms of temperatures during overclocking. I've been waiting for Haswell anyhow, but if I needed something now Ivy Bridge still sounds pretty good. I overclock, but I have no need for anything above 4.5Ghz, so I would be fine.
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post #54 of 61
His numbers at 4.6 seemed pretty dang good to me. 78 degrees stress testing is perfectly fine.

People act like even 4.8 was common on SB. Most people were not even getting that high much less 5ghz.
    
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This
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http://www.nordichardware.com/news/69-cpu-chipset/45738-ivy-bridge-sells-with-95w-tdp-but-uses-a-maximum-of-77w.html
I believe this would enlighten all about the 77W, 95W TDP confusion

TDP and power consumption aren't the same. Chips with a 95W TDP usually don't consume 95W of power. TDP number is used to give an indication of the kind of a cooler you need for the chip in question.
 
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post #56 of 61
from what i've heard, IB has a 200-300MHz advantage over SB clock for clock. So 4.6 should be fine in benchmarks.
 
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What I want to know is what its max safe temperature is. Sure, just under 90c is too high for SB or Nehalems but what if that's nothing for IB? Any modern chip will downclock if it overheats, so there's no risk of damage. Every Intel chip since the Pentium 4 has done it.
Nehalem had no issues being above 90c, with all 3 chips that I aircooled. If its not throttling, and it is stable, it is good to go as long as the voltage is reasonable. Depends on the tjmax of ivy, if its 100c like nehalem, 90c+ in ibt is not an issuel, as in normal workloads it will never reach those temps.
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His numbers at 4.6 seemed pretty dang good to me. 78 degrees stress testing is perfectly fine.
People act like even 4.8 was common on SB. Most people were not even getting that high much less 5ghz.

correct me if I'm wrong, but arent there plenty of 4800MHz + stable overclocks in the sandy stable club thread?
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post #59 of 61
Lucky for me I have a separate CPU loop, so I'll have no issues wrangling the heat put out by this puppy.

I'm still excited to get an IB chip. Probably going to grab an i5 though, which will provide a reasonably priced upgrade from my i7 870.
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post #60 of 61
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Lucky for me I have a separate CPU loop, so I'll have no issues wrangling the heat put out by this puppy.
I'm still excited to get an IB chip. Probably going to grab an i5 though, which will provide a reasonably priced upgrade from my i7 870.

The issue is not removing the heat; it's getting the heat to the heatspreader itself. Apparently Intel has done a pretty terrible job with this.


This might be a legit excuse to remove the heatspreader again.
 
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