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AMD dominated Intel with essentially every Athlon processor they made up to the early to mid 2000s. Now, it seems ever since dual core technology came out, AMD never reclaimed that glory. AMD used to be cheaper (still are, of course) and have performance equivalent to Pentium 4's at much lower clock speeds. Those were the days. AMD should take the gloves off and produce a high end chip at Intel's highest price point just to wipe the floor with the i7 3960X and shut all the intel yuppies up. I can't believe Bulldozer is not running circles around intel.
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AMD dominated Intel with essentially every Athlon processor they made up to the early to mid 2000s. Now, it seems ever since dual core technology came out, AMD never reclaimed that glory. AMD used to be cheaper (still are, of course) and have performance equivalent to Pentium 4's at much lower clock speeds. Those were the days. AMD should take the gloves off and produce a high end chip at Intel's highest price point just to wipe the floor with the i7 3960X and shut all the intel yuppies up. I can't believe Bulldozer is not running circles around intel.

Intel has a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH larger R&D budget compared to AMD, and they can pour ALL of that into just CPU, while AMD has to pour their limited budget into CPU and GPU.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised that if AMD could spend as much as Intel can, that AMD would wipe the floor clean of Intel.
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AMD has made some bad design decisions. Steamroller will supposedly work most of these issues out, and might compete well with Haswell (especially if Intel will still be refusing to package a six-core compatible with their mainstream socket)
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AMD dominated Intel with essentially every Athlon processor they made up to the early to mid 2000s. Now, it seems ever since dual core technology came out, AMD never reclaimed that glory. AMD used to be cheaper (still are, of course) and have performance equivalent to Pentium 4's at much lower clock speeds. Those were the days. AMD should take the gloves off and produce a high end chip at Intel's highest price point just to wipe the floor with the i7 3960X and shut all the intel yuppies up. I can't believe Bulldozer is not running circles around intel.

Ummm, NO just no wink.gif

sorry but Intel has more money. Sad sad world.
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Money.

Intel has been sued many times for market control. Google it. "intel sued"
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Money.
Intel has been sued many times for market control. Google it. "intel sued"

and more to spare.
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I doubt it. However, AMD still does rather well in my opinion. They still push out decent performing budget friendly CPUs and GPUs.

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I doubt it. However, AMD still does rather well in my opinion. They still push out decent performing budget friendly CPUs and GPUs.
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Yeah, for how limited AMD is, they do rather well in my opinion.

Honestly, I believe that if AMD had even half the budget Intel did, they could outclass them, but sadly, that'll never come.
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Athlon 64 was one of the greatest CPU's of all time. I remember overclocking my A64 3000+ from 1,8GHz to 3GHz with stock cooler and cheapest Asrock board I could find redface.gif All my friends had the same setup because it had so great performance for the price. Intel's Conroe was a blow that AMD never really recovered from. It took Phenom 2 to match Core 2 Duo IPC and by then Intel already had Nehalem. I hope that Piledriver will at last match Nehalem performance.
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AMD dominated Intel with essentially every Athlon processor they made up to the early to mid 2000s. Now, it seems ever since dual core technology came out, AMD never reclaimed that glory. AMD used to be cheaper (still are, of course) and have performance equivalent to Pentium 4's at much lower clock speeds. Those were the days. AMD should take the gloves off and produce a high end chip at Intel's highest price point just to wipe the floor with the i7 3960X and shut all the intel yuppies up. I can't believe Bulldozer is not running circles around intel.

 

They tried to do exactly that with BD, but they failed. BD isn't running circles around Intel mainly because it turned out to be essentially the AMD equivalent of Netburst...power hungry and disappointing performance compared to even previous Pentium IIIs (in BD's case, the 6-core Thubans.) So basically, Bulldozer is the reason Bulldozer "failed."
 

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Ummm, NO just no wink.gif
sorry but Intel has more money. Sad sad world.

 

They still managed to surge ahead back in the Athlon days, as OP mentioned. I think it has largely to do with AMD's head honchos being incompetent. I think they could do it again if they had the right people leading.
 

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Originally Posted by xxkedzxx View Post

I doubt it. However, AMD still does rather well in my opinion. They still push out decent performing budget friendly CPUs and GPUs.


And this is a segment where the money is. An i7 competitor from AMD would be nice, but it's really not their top priority because the enthusiast segment is so small compared to the segment that buys APUs. Their APUs compete quite nicely with Intel's lower end i3s and definitely beat Intel's godawful iGPUs.

 

Edit: I love your avatar. laugher.gif


Edited by Malcolm - 4/17/12 at 11:41pm
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