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Hey guys, could use a little help... I searched for this, but didn't come up with anything.

I work for a construction company. I work on the new construction/large scale projects but we also have a renovation/remodeling side of things too. That end of the company uses Sketchup for almost all of their projects. They find it much easier to get homeowners to use than CAD. The thing is, some of the drawings they do can get pretty detailed and end up being rather large files. It gets to the point where their computers lock up all the time when they are trying to open things. They get a not responding message... Eventhough I am way better with a hammer and a saw in my hands, I am kind of viewed as the company geek and have been tasked with building some new rigs that will work better. I don't have a budget to be concerned with, but I'm not going to go crazy with things either.

Anyone familiar with the problem I'm talking about? I don't know if the GPU is the issue, the CPU, RAM, or what... The rigs they were using are all AMD with on board graphics and 4GB of RAM. I put my 6950 in a couple of them and it helped a little, but the problem still exists. Its not just a faulty computer because its happening on 4 rigs. I can open any of their files on my rig (2600K) without any issues.

Bottomline, I have to build 5 new rigs that will work better for them. These rigs won't do anything other than run Sketchup and send e-mails. I would like to go with Intel CPUs (thinking i3 2100, but can go with anything I want), some type of dedicated graphics card (7750 or 7770 seems about right to me) and maybe 8 GB of RAM. I'm going to reuse the existing cases, HDDs, monitors, etc on the 4 existing rigs and build one new one. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is Sketchup something that will benefit from more cores, or do I need better graphics?
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I think your in the right direction, the igp was the cause of the hang up, then putting a discrete temporarily solve the problem, though consumer gaming type videocard support the openGL, its not recommended for productivity, its better to use fire-pro or quadro in that matter, the low end one since sketchup required 512mb 3D class type videocard will be beneficial

as for cpu no idea if it will support multi-core as said here link & for pc requirement
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Sketchup is a 32bit program (like all almost CAD programs), so it can't utilise more than 4gb RAM
It also can't utilise multi-core processing, but you can run two instances at once which can be helpful.

It needs a lot of raw CPU power, more GHz are better; you don't gain much from big L2 Caches.

Even with a good PC (I have a xeon 3.2ghz, 6-core watercooled) your model is limited to about 5million edges or 500,000 faces (it's possible to get more, but not worth the effort).
You must use lots of components to reducing computing time, and place detailed objects on different layers so you can hide/unhide them easily.

Sketchup does use GPU, but nothing fancy like CUDA. - It doesn't actually need much GPU power at all, and you might get away with an ivybridge onboard (hd4000), but probably a low-end video card would be smoother and more reliable (some older or low-end video cards 'clip' the scene due to OpenGL errors and so forth...this is why Quadro cards are recommended for CAD/3D modelling)

I'm building a sketchup rig next week. But I'm not quite sure what to go for...maybe a 3570k or 3770k and aim for about 4ghz.
The extra cores would be useful for rendering (using third party renderer)

I could go with a Sandybridge to get better overclock, but I really don't know if sketchup will perform reliably with an overclocked CPU anyway. It does crash a lot.
My case will be a matx (sugo 04) and i can't watercool (portability) so it might get pretty hot!
Edited by ak-sam - 6/7/12 at 5:00pm
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