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IB or SB for P8Z68-V/Gen3, PCI 2.0 or 3.0 for GTX680?

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I hope this thread is in the right place since it falls into 3 separate categories. Here goes, I recently started a new build and am buying the components when I can afford them. I know I should be buying it all at once but that is not an option. Anyway, I just received my Asus P8Z68-V/gen3 MB yesterday and have a question. I know I must use an IB CPU to enable PCI-e 3.0 but will the speed of 3.0 over 2.0 (if I just go with the 2500K) make a substantial difference in the performance of one of the new GPU's (680,7970)? I know that 3.0 offers more bandwidth than any current hardware can utilize but the reported temps on the 3570k when OC'ed are pushing me back in the direction of the 2500k or 2550k. Can anyone give me good reason to jump on the 3570k or should I stick with the tried and true 2500k? I will most likely be OC'ing after I educate myself on the subject and have the CM 212 Evo on the way just for that purpose. I will probably go liquid sometime in the future.
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There is a own side if you go with Ivy. You will get lot higher temps than a 2500K and the difference from PCIe 2.0 to 3.0 is negligible. Current GPUs can't even fully saturate a 2.0 lane.
     
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That was what I was thinking, and there may be a tiny price drop in the 2500k after the 3570k is released hopefully. So far all I have ordered and received (component wise) are the P8Z68-v/Gen3 MB, Corsair 400R case, NZXT Hale82-750-m 750w PSU,and the 212 Evo is out for delivery. Next up is either CPU and RAM or HDD+SSD and RAM. Gotta do some more research before next payday. I'm not looking to OC my RAM and understand that I will need RAM that is first-1.5v or less, second-lowest timings I can find and third- will need to be low profile to fit under the 212. Not sure whether to go 4x4Gb or 2x8Gb. Definitely getting a total of 16Gb tho' since it's fairly cheap now.
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That was what I was thinking, and there may be a tiny price drop in the 2500k after the 3570k is released hopefully. So far all I have ordered and received (component wise) are the P8Z68-v/Gen3 MB, Corsair 400R case, NZXT Hale82-750-m 750w PSU,and the 212 Evo is out for delivery. Next up is either CPU and RAM or HDD+SSD and RAM. Gotta do some more research before next payday. I'm not looking to OC my RAM and understand that I will need RAM that is first-1.5v or less, second-lowest timings I can find and third- will need to be low profile to fit under the 212. Not sure whether to go 4x4Gb or 2x8Gb. Definitely getting a total of 16Gb tho' since it's fairly cheap now.

I don't really know how tall or short the 212 is but if you want BA and low profile RAM then check out this set of Samsung RAM. I've heard these things are beasts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
     
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Thanks for that info. That RAM is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks again!
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as far as pci 2.0 and pci 3.0 with the gtx 680, running a comparison on heaven, my set up with pci 2.0 (same board as you) avg's about 10 fps less then a board with pci 3.0. if you go into the gtx 680 overclocking thread and scour through some of the pages, you will see it. i'm disappointed that the IB will be hotter than SB, i was really hoping to get that proc to enable pci 3.0 just cause i have the board for it. anywho, good luck on your build!
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