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ocz vertex 4 128 gb vs samsung 830 128 gb

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hi all,
i'm about to buy a new ssd cause my old one is dead only god knows why,
it was a vertex 2 64 gb.

for now my best choice seems to be between ocz vertex 4 and samsung 830,both 128 gb,
in my country they have pratically the same price.
but i'm not so sure about ocz reliability....
what would you pick and why?

thx.
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OCZ have had many reliability issues with theres in the past. Great performance but seems to me at a cost.

I would choose the samsung everytime. Hearing good things about the 830. The Samsung, plextor and crucial m4 seem to widely regarded as the best drives available.
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post #3 of 13
I'm in a similar situation. I think OCZ for speed and Samsung for reliability.
post #4 of 13
Vertex 4. 5yr warranty + speeds + it has potential to be better than it is now.
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Sean I was reading a review on the ocz vertex 4 on anadtech, and they stated:

"OCZ effectively gives us three of the four corners of raw performance, and competitive sequential read speeds under heavy load. Does giving up the bottom end of sequential read performance matter? For users with very write intensive or generally IO heavy workloads, the tradeoff is likely worth it. It almost feels like OCZ should have launched the enterprise version of the Vertex 4 first, given its strengths. For more typical mainstream client workloads, the Vertex 4 isn't as good of a fit. The drive is still usable, but it's far from industry-leading when it comes to low queue depth read speeds."

I would suggest im a typical mainstream user, i.e I open up programmes relatively often however what constitues heavy IO workload? Also Im confused by thier queue depth read speeds, what does that mean? I assumed that 99% of the time all that mattered with SSD's was 4k random read/write speeds, as these are the speeds that determine how fast an OS feels as its the speeds you get when 'randomly' opening up programmes etc?

What else matters past 4K random times when buying a ssd?
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Sean I was reading a review on the ocz vertex 4 on anadtech, and they stated:

"OCZ effectively gives us three of the four corners of raw performance, and competitive sequential read speeds under heavy load. Does giving up the bottom end of sequential read performance matter? For users with very write intensive or generally IO heavy workloads, the tradeoff is likely worth it. It almost feels like OCZ should have launched the enterprise version of the Vertex 4 first, given its strengths. For more typical mainstream client workloads, the Vertex 4 isn't as good of a fit. The drive is still usable, but it's far from industry-leading when it comes to low queue depth read speeds."


I would suggest im a typical mainstream user, i.e I open up programmes relatively often however what constitues heavy IO workload?
constant reading/writing

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Also Im confused by thier queue depth read speeds, what does that mean?
http://searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/definition/queue-depth
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I assumed that 99% of the time all that mattered with SSD's was 4k random read/write speeds, as these are the speeds that determine how fast an OS feels as its the speeds you get when 'randomly' opening up programmes etc?
That and access times.
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What else matters past 4K random times when buying a ssd?
Many things.

the controller, the type of NAND, firmware, company support and warranty, size, capacity, host interface etc.
post #7 of 13
so do you think vertex 4 is best ssd for us none constant read/writing users? What about the new controller? BSOD likely as with vertex 3 sandforce controller?
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so do you think vertex 4 is best ssd for us none constant read/writing users? What about the new controller? BSOD likely as with vertex 3 sandforce controller?

No. Vertex 4's controller is Marvell hardware with fully custom OCZ/Indilinx firmware. V4 rocks.
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Vertex 4 can be better than Samsung 830 but it's better to wait until Vertex 4 is out of it's beta testing stage and prices are dropping monthly.
OCZ Vertex 4 firmwares updates are destructive. - (it means that the drive must be backed up or empty to do a firmware update.)
Crucial M4 firmware updates are not destructive. - (can be applied to SSD with data)
SSD in beta or live seems to be related to the way firmware updates are done.
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What else matters past 4K random times when buying a ssd?
Compatibility, Latency, then Queue Depths with IOPS or 4K random. Lower latency has better workload for applications.

(The 4K is related to IOPS at low (1) queue depth and 4K random is related to IOPS at higher (32) queue depth. (Queue Depth is between 1 to 32 natively and up to 64.) Example: 1 queue depth at 7680 IOPS *4 /1024 = 30 MBps at 4k.
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post #10 of 13
Considering I just had a Vertex 2 die on me and possibly having issues with the replacement I would say go Samsung! I know I won't ever touch another OCZ.
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