Well - let's think about this. What we know thus far.
Originally Posted by InfamousLegend
What do you guys mean when you say no voltage control. On my GTX 570 TFIII I could go up to 1.175v. Does that mean you can't adjust it on a GTX 680? If so I would refuse to purchase the card until it was implemented.
The GTX 680 with voltage cap at 1.175v are showing GPU Boost giving most all cards top clocks of 1200-1250 Mhz Core clock on average.
The 7970 without voltage cap at 1.25v giving top clocks 1200 -1250 MHz Core clocks on average.
I guess I've failed to see how the 680 isn't performing when in fact it's quite admirably comparable even with the votage cap.
Both sides have the lucky exceptional few silicone winners that are hitting 1250 - 1300 Mhz Core clock.Keep in mind some things:
1. The 7970 owners can up their voltage and the 680 owners are limited to voltage cap.
2. 680 cards are dependent on dynamic over clocking which down clock it'self in moments of the synthetic bench where the GPU performance isn't quite needed therefor not maintaining the constant Core clock the 7970 can, so the 7970 has a slight edge in synthetic benchmarks. Which doesn't translate into real world gaming or the 680's true potential.
3. These comparisons thus far are with the 4 PWM cards 6+6 power supply connections.
With these variable scenarios the 680 is doing well keeping up in synthetic benches despite the voltage cap in current benchmarks being done on OCN in the benchmark section. 7970's do better in Heaven and 680's doing better in 3DMark11 from what I've seen by the qualified entries.
Both are doing very comparable in gaming. Reviews showed when both are over clocked with stable over clock and without voltage increase to the 7970, the 680 winning most game benchmarks. When over clocked with voltage the 7970 compares quite admirably and once again both are comparable on par performance.What will the extra power 8+6 or 8+8 power connectors and with 5 & 8 PWM's do for the upcoming cards you ask?A Higher, cleaner power delivery that can enable greater overclocks with lower temperatures and result in a higher overclocking potential.
Originally Posted by Tipless
from what ive read about the prices, they pay higher prices than we do.
i have heard the 4gb gtx 680 should be around $600-$700 in the US
Where have you heard these qoutes on pricing? Please show us the source. I would belive $600 for the GTX 680 FTW 4 GB card but no way for $700.
If the GTX 680 Signature card (8+6 and 5 PWM's) are selling for $530
, I'd speculate the next card up - GTX 680 FTW (8+6 and 8 PWM's) will go for $560. So that's why I'd feel the next step up being the GTX 680 FTW 4GB (8+6 and 8 PWM's) which comes with backplate will come in at $600. But at this point neither of are speculations are wrong, it's just not fact for us to debate over yet.