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AMD and Intel thats it.
I imagine new company comes out and beats everything that intel has to offer by 70% tongue.gif *JUST THINKING*
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AMD and Intel thats it.
I imagine new company comes out and beats everything that intel has to offer by 70% tongue.gif *JUST THINKING*

Intel or AMD would probably buy them out before they became a threat.
IMO, the X86 arch wont last for ever.

 

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via, arm, powerpc, qualcomm (snapdragon) most of that is mobile though
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Originally Posted by insyxion View Post

AMD and Intel thats it.
I imagine new company comes out and beats everything that intel has to offer by 70% tongue.gif *JUST THINKING*

There are dozens/hundred of companies that design processors. IBM, Sun, ARM, TI, NVIDIA, Samsung, Fujitsu, Tilera, etc.

Three are THREE companies that design x86 processors: Intel, AMD, VIA.

No one else can make a x86 processor due to lots and lots of patent cross-licensing.


To build a x86 CPU from scratch to beat Intel would take at least $100B and a decade.
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because imagine the knowledge it takes to put 2 billion transistors on 1 chip... Although there are multiple semiconductor manufacturers, they are simply OEMs. For example, Nvidia and AMD (for their graphics chips) both employ TMSC as their chip manufacturers (and recent problems led Nvidia asking Intel to going into the foundry business). Another example is ARM which designs its own chips, but sells the design to other companies to licence (Nvidia, Samsung, Qualcomm, TI, etc).

Also, in order to be compatible with x86 is a pain in the butt, it's not a RISC processor (one which sacrifices the number of instructions but allows hardware design to be faster) so you'd have to implement in the hardware the instructions. The time and money required to reach the standards of Intel won't happen overnight... ARM is getting close, but because they're different architectures, 1 GHz ARM vs 1 GHz intel, is no match since in 1 instruction on an intel chip today might take 5 or more ARM instructions (depending on what).
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Originally Posted by insyxion View Post

AMD and Intel thats it.
I imagine new company comes out and beats everything that intel has to offer by 70% tongue.gif *JUST THINKING*

x86 license is currently only licensed to three companies, Intel, AMD, and VIA. On top of that to enter processor market one must have huge capitols and resources. The lack of capitols, resources, and license all prevent other companies from making x86 CPU.
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Not happening

No upstart company has the funding, experience, expertise, and assets available to Intel or AMD.

The already existing companies already all have their own nitch and sticking to that is more profitable than trying to pull a complete 180 and go with a different architecture for another market (mobile, embedded devices, etc).

IBM could swoop in, obliterate AMD and give Intel a world of pain, but they seem to have no interest in doing so and I cant really blame them. They have better things in the works than consumer PCs.
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There are dozens/hundred of companies that design processors.
Three are THREE companies that design x86 processors: Intel, AMD, VIA.
No one else can make a x86 processor due to lots and lots of patent cross-licensing.
To build a x86 CPU from scratch to beat Intel would take at least $100B and a decade.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by insyxion View Post

AMD and Intel thats it.
I imagine new company comes out and beats everything that intel has to offer by 70% tongue.gif *JUST THINKING*

Intel, AMD and VIA are the only manufacturers of x86 processors, there are a multitude of other manufacturers that make processors that use different instructions sets. ARM is a big competitor right now in mobile and embedded markets right now.

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Why don't IBM buy up VIA and storm the x86 market? They have the funding to do so.
 
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