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So with the help of some of you OCNers I have built a new APU rig that I plan on selling to my clients at my computer shop. It arrived today and I have got to say it is the single most shocking system I have ever built.

I am or was a pretty die hard intel fan, I mean lets face it when it comes to over the top performance and benchies Intel takes the crown, typically.

AMD however, owns the price/performance market. I have been testing this rig out all afternoon on real world benchmarks. (Gaming, encoding, ect)

The is no use to put this thing through synthetic benchies because my customers don't know what those are they wanna see how well it can play games and how cheap they can get it for.

So here is what I have come up with so far.

Specs:

A8-3850 Quad core running at 3.6GHz Cost $118.00

--No discrete graphics at all-- Cost Included =)

G.Skill DDR3 1886 Memory Cost $59.99

BioStar A75mh Motherboard Cost $69.99

Xion HTPC Case with mouse/keyboard and PSU Cost $ 64.99


Total = $318.00 with shipping.



Games played at 1600 x 900 Res:

CS:GO Maxed out pulling 70-80 FPS

StarCraft 2 Medium settings with high physics 60-70 FPS

Black ops (crap coding) Low settings 50-65 FPS

Fallout New Vegas High settings (no HDR) 45-55 FPS (out in open world)

Crysis 2 High settings 17-28ish FPS (Unplayable) Res taken down to 1024 and got 35-45 FPS.

Left 4 Dead 2 Max settings 55-73 FPS


Thats all I have done as far as Gaming. I plan on fine tuning the system a little more and then tomorrow seeing how well it can handle the heavy hitter games, like Crysis, Battlefield, and others.



This is not ment to be a Major gaming rig but, an entry low cost gaming rig for people that don't have aot of cash to spend. This will suit their purpose fine. I suspect that if I ad the recommended HD 6570 discrete GPU in for a crossfire this rig will impress even further.



I have to say I am thoroughly impressed with these APU's. I spent 318 bucks for a very low budget gaming rig and I am actually playing allot of games above low settings and some even on high. This feet performed by AMD is amazing and I am definitely a fan for life now. If you turn off that lil yellow number in the corner and just enjoy the games you will be impressed as well. I am literally gaming with no graphics card, epic IMO.



P.S. If any of you wanna see me bench this thing with other programs give me a suggestion and ill do it. Hope this helps some.
Edited by Dimaggio1103 - 4/19/12 at 2:50pm
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Can you overclock the cpu an igp an run vantage? Then list vantage stock then overclocked?
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Sure I can do that give me a bit. Its getting late but ill hit that up first thing in the morning.
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I was thinking about getting a A8(k) to overclock. How do they compare to the A6's. I'm trying to build a cheap, third computer for my bedroom.
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StarCraft 2 benches don't count unless they simulate late game scenarios with heavy CPU load. Pull out the unit tester (a custom map) and send 150 lings at 75 marines. You'll get vastly different FPS. Something you may wan to neglect to tell your clients. And potentially that's only mid-game 1v1 armies. 3v3 & 4v4 get much worse.
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I do real world benchies like I said above. I tested playing on 1v1 and it went late game approx 50ish dragoons or I mean "stalkers" lol. Ripping his base apart I say that pretty real world.

My point to this is to give credit where credit is due. AMD has a heck of a platform here and cant wait to see what the future holds. PC gamer's also need to learn to stop trying to count FPS and just play and enjoy the game. The only reason I am counting FPS here is to make sure I know what these rigs will do when I start sending them home with my clients.

The bigger picture here is we can get people to buy a gaming PC over an new Xbox there is not much of a price difference, in comparison to what people typically recommend.


P.S. I will now do some synth benchies as requested.
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Heh. I agree with you on the FPS counting. I mean heck, I play SC2 on the computer in my sig rig and it's smooth as butter (admittedly on low graphics). Not 50 fps in late team games, but smooth enough I don't notice slowdowns except in the most extreme CPU-punishing scenarios in one of the most CPU punishing games on the market.

StarCraft 2 is just very hard to bench. The point at which you feel like your computer isn't very good when playing SC2 never comes up in most benchmarks, but it can come up frequently in real-life play. One of those situations where the average FPS matters nothing, only the minimum FPS result matters, and most benchmarks run by reviewers and average people alike don't produce a realistic minimum.
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Yea it funny, when I have a customer ask about a build that can play all games, I go all out nerd on em. lol I start explaining how a 2500k will blow any game away paired with like a 6970 or something. Then when I tell them the price tag the shy away. I then tell them bout a mid range AMD platform and they ask "will I notice a difference?" and my answer is typically no, not really.

That is because the average consumer does not notice any FPS changes above 40 I believe. the human eye I think only recognizes anything below 40ish So paying over 1k to get 90 FPS in a game is pissing yur money away on something youll never be able to tell the difference in. I was actually gonna do a Intel build here soon for a personal gaming rig, but I think after seeing this I might mess around for ahwile with these APU's. Pair it with a 6570 and OC the crap out it. thumb.gif
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and yet so many intel fanboys will tell you amds dead...... great job op, youve proved amd and intel are both good and have there places thumb.gif
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thanks JRL I always knew each chip had its place but, was stunned when I am playing a game or two at high settings and I look over and see no graphics card. AMD has dominated Intel in the onchip graphics department Intel has nothing that can compete at any of its price ranges. AMD Has a IGP champ here.

Also, keep requests coming for benches if any curious folk out there running vantage now as per request.
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