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So I'm on my third 250 gts from MSI. The first two would work 100% fine other then crashing while idle under 2d clock mode, The third one shows weird artifacts in almost every game I play. attached are some photo's of it, that I took today (all settings in bios are at stock, the card is not overclocked )

I only had the second card for a little over a month, the third for about two weeks.

Would you guys have any tips on how to talk to them? To get a brand new card, I am sick of not being able to play games


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Edited by rafety58 - 4/19/12 at 3:23am
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post #2 of 17
Drivers,Maybe?
Try other drivers if any are offered.
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Drivers,Maybe?
Try other drivers if any are offered.

I tried it on 285.62, 296.10, and 301.24
I have been having this problem for about a weak now, I have also tried a clean install of windows on a spare HDD. I just haven't been able to take pictures to show proof of it, until now.
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Maybe it's BF3's failsafe for rendering the game if it doesn't have adequate power backing it.

 

On topic, I doubt you'll be able to get a 'new' card considering they don't just keep those things in stock. All they have left are other RMAs and returns so chances are it'll be more difficult to get something that'll work than if it were a newer card.

 

See if you can get them to give you a modern newer card of the same price range. I've heard of it happening in other similar situations so hopefully it'll apply here too. Considering it'll save both of you time and money it seems like it'd be to their benefit to do something along those lines.

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So I'm on my third 250 gts from MSI. The first two would work 100% fine other then crashing while idle under 2d clock mode, The third one shows weird artifacts in almost every game I play. attached are some photo's of it, that I took today (all settings in bios are at stock, the card is not overclocked )

This sounded awfully like the infamous TDR bug, which has nothing to do with MSI. It is a Nvidia driver issue that has yet to be resolved.
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This sounded awfully like the infamous TDR bug, which has nothing to do with MSI. It is a Nvidia driver issue that has yet to be resolved.

I never heard of that bug before, but would it make a card artifact like in this pic I took of my second card? After doing that my entire computer would lock up.

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I never heard of that bug before, but would it make a card artifact like in this pic I took of my second card? After doing that my entire computer would lock up.

Hmm.. First time I saw that. What TDR bug does is that random GPU driver crash when at idle. Screen just turned black for couple seconds, then Windows restore the driver with a pop out that says Nvidia kernel blah blah blah recovered. Most frequently happens at web browsing and watching video.
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I uploaded a video of the problem to youtube, added to the OP
Edited by rafety58 - 4/19/12 at 3:24am
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post #9 of 17
So OP, you sent in the first two cards and now only have the third card right?

Try 275.33,
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-275.33-whql-driver.html

Make sure to do a clean install on the driver.
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post #10 of 17
Why Dont you give some really early drivers a go I found for my 9800gt early drivers would work better then new ones.
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