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Ivy bridge runs extremely hot and well known sources stated that if you pass 1.35v or above on ivy for 24/7 use the chip may degrade very soon.
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Ivy bridge runs extremely hot and well known sources stated that if you pass 1.35v or above on ivy for 24/7 use the chip may degrade very soon.

How would they know that the chip would degrade very soon? There's no proof of that.
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All the forums stated that passing above 1.35v for 24/7 use will harm the chip badly.
IMO all those reviewers are vastly experienced and knows better than you and me so we should trust them.
No point of getting ivy unless you are doing ln2/dice cooling.
Sandy bridge rules!
i7 2600k paired with a asus maximusV gene will be the best upgrade IMO.
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If you're not going for a 6 core on the 2011, then the 4 core 2011 SB will not beat the IB chips. It's as simple as that. There's a ton of review showing the IB 3770k beating out the 3820 Sandy.
I mean, isn't the point of many people buying 2011 TODAY is to upgrade sometime down the line for a IB-E 6 core? I think that's not a good plan, since Haswell is already approaching. Heck, Intel said at one point they weren't gonna bother with a IB-E 6 core chip. Think about it.

I agree with you on the reviews, because they're really alot of reviews showing the 3770k beating the 3820 in nearly all aspects I think. But, some people are actually still on LGA 775 and 1366 and want to upgrade to an enthusiast platform that has PCI-E support with dual 16x slots, some IB and SB boards do not support full 16x on dual slots. Plus, you have people who may want to hold off and get the Haswell enthusiast line of CPU's, since it will come in just a couple months to a half year after IB-E, if IB-E is even made at all. But, the 3820 is a great CPU and will definitely get someone by until the Haswell chips arrive. Hell, if you want, might as well upgrade to a 3930k and have that beast of a CPU in your system.

Edit: PCI-E 3.0 support thumb.gif
Edited by Weezernation - 4/28/12 at 12:28pm
post #25 of 30
If you want to go x79 and just gaming then the 3820 would be perfect. Getting 3930K would be a waist of money for gaming. Anyone who tells you to get a 3930K just to have a beast of a CPU, and all you're gonna do is game? Then there dumb. Get you a nice X79 board, 3820, nice gpus, and you're goochie.
    
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If you want to go x79 and just gaming then the 3820 would be perfect. Getting 3930K would be a waist of money for gaming. Anyone who tells you to get a 3930K just to have a beast of a CPU, and all you're gonna do is game? Then there dumb. Get you a nice X79 board, 3820, nice gpus, and you're goochie.

I forgot he said he was just going to be gaming. I've been reading way too many forum posts today, haha.redface.gif
post #27 of 30
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I forgot he said he was just going to be gaming. I've been reading way too many forum posts today, haha.redface.gif

Yeah i was just saying because the 3820 is a great OCer. Only way i could see getting a 3930K is if you're not gonna upgrade to SB-E or upgrade for a very long time. It'll be long time before games even utilize 6 cores let alone 4 cores properly IMO.
    
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I've already suggested him i7 3820+asus rampageIV extreme/i7 2600k+z77 (for eg asus maximusV gene)
Edited by Aniket - 4/29/12 at 9:24am
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I'm in 2011 for 16x16x SLI, quad memory and overclocking for $100 than 1155. A 3820 is less 'locked' than previous OCing w/LGA 775. It's 'locking' doesn't result in *any* limitation. There had been little issue w/getting 4.6 Ghz and many folks are getting 4.8-5.0 Ghz. Same as 1155 SB. You can mosey over to the 3820 OCing thread and see.

A few years back like... 2007-2008, faster duals reigned supreme and folks said quads weren't worth the money. A lot of folks. I'm of the notion, in 3-5 years, a 6-8 core processor at a fair OC of 4.5-5.0 may hold fine w/a 5.5-6 Ghz quad with archetectural improvements. While they're still serviceable, a 4.0 ghz c2d isn't as good as a c2q. I wouldn't have help only LGA 775 nearly as long if I'd stuck w/a E6600 instead of selling it and paying an extra ~$100 to go to a Q6600. I won't take the nay-sayers of 2011 over what I've seen happen in the duals vs quads battle. So long as the support continues... more cores and perhaps HT will be the path to take.

I think the quad memory is a bust for gaming but the 40 PCI-E lanes and being able to sell the 3820 for ~200-250 and going w/a 6/8 IB for 500-600 will give it enough life to go a few years beyond what SB/IB on 1155 is capable of.

This is all gambling that programs take advantage of multi-threading and HT is worth a damn years from now. Maybe... maybe not. I think it was worth the $100 gamble. Plus, any revisions that come out w/IB on 1155 should (hopefully) be incorporated w/IB-E... with maybe an improvement along the way. There won't be any IGP that I don't care about taking up room either.

I'd bet the majority of everyone, at least on OCN, w/a 1155 SB/IB setup will have moved on in 2015. I'd like to have the 2011 for 5 years. OCing to me isn't about bragging rights. It's about taking something that isn't hacking it anymore and extending it's life to make it comparable to stock clocked new tech. It was time to move away from a Q6600 when it 1) couldn't play some games w/o limiting minimum frames and 2) At it's max OCs couldn't hang w/a stock clocked 2500k, given it's improvements.

I got an asrock extreme6/GB. Has a sound card that'll hopefully work as well but have better driver support than my PCI Xtremegamer X-Fi card. For around $250, you can get it w/o the sound card. There was a good review of all socket 2011 mobos I googled. I used the reviews, knowing I'd probably never do more than 2 cards in SLI along w/looking at pricing as my deciding factor. The comparable 1155 mobo I looked at was about $100 less. The 3820 was about 30 under a 2600k, and clocks similarly. I had to get DDR3 (was in the dark ages w/DDR2) so that was a little under $100 for 16 gb of fast ram... twice as much as I'll ever need in 5 years.
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I'm in 2011 for 16x16x SLI, quad memory and overclocking for $100 than 1155. A 3820 is less 'locked' than previous OCing w/LGA 775. It's 'locking' doesn't result in *any* limitation. There had been little issue w/getting 4.6 Ghz and many folks are getting 4.8-5.0 Ghz. Same as 1155 SB. You can mosey over to the 3820 OCing thread and see.
A few years back like... 2007-2008, faster duals reigned supreme and folks said quads weren't worth the money. A lot of folks. I'm of the notion, in 3-5 years, a 6-8 core processor at a fair OC of 4.5-5.0 may hold fine w/a 5.5-6 Ghz quad with archetectural improvements. While they're still serviceable, a 4.0 ghz c2d isn't as good as a c2q. I wouldn't have help only LGA 775 nearly as long if I'd stuck w/a E6600 instead of selling it and paying an extra ~$100 to go to a Q6600. I won't take the nay-sayers of 2011 over what I've seen happen in the duals vs quads battle. So long as the support continues... more cores and perhaps HT will be the path to take.

I think the quad memory is a bust for gaming but the 40 PCI-E lanes and being able to sell the 3820 for ~200-250 and going w/a 6/8 IB for 500-600 will give it enough life to go a few years beyond what SB/IB on 1155 is capable of.
This is all gambling that programs take advantage of multi-threading and HT is worth a damn years from now. Maybe... maybe not. I think it was worth the $100 gamble. Plus, any revisions that come out w/IB on 1155 should (hopefully) be incorporated w/IB-E... with maybe an improvement along the way. There won't be any IGP that I don't care about taking up room either.
I'd bet the majority of everyone, at least on OCN, w/a 1155 SB/IB setup will have moved on in 2015. I'd like to have the 2011 for 5 years. OCing to me isn't about bragging rights. It's about taking something that isn't hacking it anymore and extending it's life to make it comparable to stock clocked new tech. It was time to move away from a Q6600 when it 1) couldn't play some games w/o limiting minimum frames and 2) At it's max OCs couldn't hang w/a stock clocked 2500k, given it's improvements.
I got an asrock extreme6/GB. Has a sound card that'll hopefully work as well but have better driver support than my PCI Xtremegamer X-Fi card. For around $250, you can get it w/o the sound card. There was a good review of all socket 2011 mobos I googled. I used the reviews, knowing I'd probably never do more than 2 cards in SLI along w/looking at pricing as my deciding factor. The comparable 1155 mobo I looked at was about $100 less. The 3820 was about 30 under a 2600k, and clocks similarly. I had to get DDR3 (was in the dark ages w/DDR2) so that was a little under $100 for 16 gb of fast ram... twice as much as I'll ever need in 5 years.

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