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so i found out my mobo doesnt support the new zambezi chipset frown.gif. an im trying to find a way i wont bottle neck my 2 5970's an have a pretty sick rig. i dont really wanna go intel cuz i dont wanna drop 400 on board an chip. so would a 6 core 1045t stop my bottle neck. an if so what would b the max overclock i could do safely. with air or with an h100 or something. i will also be upgrading ram to 1600 or 1866 an getting a new psu so i dont have any problems else where. thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 40
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can any1 help? i have been asking this question for days an seem to get no answers
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post #3 of 40
A 1045 wont give you a huge performance boost, because it's a lower clocked 6 core. Thus if your applications are actually not optimized to take advantage of all 6 cores, you may lose some performance.

I'd recommend getting an aftermarket cooler and trying to get an OC of around 3.6-3.7. If you want to try to OC higher and get a new CPU, then go for 960T. They OC higher than 955s generally can, and you can unlock 2 extra cores. Microcenter has them for $89 right now - if you have one 1 around you.

Phenoms do not support 1866mhz RAM, so there's no point in getting it. Stick to 1600.
I don't think you need an upgrade on PSU. If you're stable now, you'll be stable even after RAM & CPU upgrades.

Unfortunately, you're pretty at the end of the line for AM3. It wont get much better than what you have now.
    
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post #4 of 40
you don't need to drop $400 on a board and chip, maybe ~$330 if you go with an i5, even less if you go with an i3.

Either way, grab a Asrock Extreme3/4 mobo and either a 960T or 2500K or an i3-2100.

If you get a 960T, you are going to need to overclock it for it to be an improvement over a i3-2100. If you do not want to overclock, you are better off getting an i3 + H61/67 mobo(cheaper alternative.

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Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Total: $329.85

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Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $214.98

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Motherboard: MSI H67A-G43 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
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You might need to go intel on this one, at least to eliminate your CPU bottleneck. the 960T still might bottleneck and is only a slight increase of a PII 955, is your 955 overclocked? I remember I had to swap out mine when I went for SLI 570s. And I had it OC'd to 4.0GHz
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post #5 of 40
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ok thanks a lot for your help. an for the links. i was just trying to go a cheaper way. if i go intel i want to at least get an i5 2500k. i just thought since the 1045t 6core from amd is still on the market, i might be able to pick 1 up an oc to about 3.8-4.2 ghz an that would fix the prob. an no my 955 isnt OC'ed at all
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There isn't an AMD processor on the market that doesn't bottleneck multi-GPU systems.
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also my psu can handle only handle the cards just surfing the web, lol. i only have 1 hooked up atm for gaming. if not my psu would laugh its ass off if i told it to run both lol. either of u know what my mobo, psu,ram, an cpu an xfx radeon 6850 dual fan edition would be worth. mayb i'll just sell locally an do a whole new build since i just got my 2 new 5970's yesterday.
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Why do you say that it is bottlenecking? Could you post your gpu usage using afterburner? Your solution is an overclock away. All you need is a better cooler, (212 evo with some Phobya paste) a nb oc to 2800, and a CPU oc to 3.8. Problem solved! Final cost: $35
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Why do you say that it is bottlenecking? Could you post your gpu usage using afterburner? Your solution is an overclock away. All you need is a better cooler, (212 evo with some Phobya paste) a nb oc to 2800, and a CPU oc to 3.8. Problem solved! Final cost: $35

it should still bottleneck, 5970s are very good cards. AMD does not handle High end multiple GPU setups that well.
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it should still bottleneck, 5970s are very good cards. AMD does not handle High end multiple GPU setups that well.

I realize that this is a popular bandwagon here on ocn, but that simply isnt true...
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If she knew just how much this cost!!!
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Got the H100 this morning and ordered the 800D realizing I would have nowhere to put it so its kinda ghetto right now..
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well ill be damned... here we are in battlefield 3 usage is as follows in sequence 97% - 89% - 97% - 96%
81FPS!!
It's not bottlenecking me too bad!! the second % is FAN speed
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