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Eh? Black Ops was the Cold War...
I think the American Revolution may be a good setting. They didn't have much technology back then, so it suits COD's developers well. lachen.gif

I uh... actually think a game based on the revolutionary war would be fun. Or the american civil war.

OOH! OR WWI. TRENCHES AND GAS MASKS... OH LORD I'M SALIVATING...

Good idea. Sit in a trench for hours, jump out and get mowed down. Repeat 5000 times, move up 10 feet. biggrin.gif
    
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And the IW engine is just a re-coded engine from 1999. I can't post a source yet but just google it.
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The point though is that putting your games on a yearly release schedule is the direct reason for a lack of innovation. It's barely enough time to iron the bugs out much less iterate on your gameplay. The only reason sports games get away with it is the leagues work the same way.

And my point is that it's not the yearly release schedule that's the problem. The problem is the publishers they're under being too controlling of the development process (specifically Activision), telling them what and what not to focus on. I've seen developers push their games within a bi-yearly development process.
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MW3 doesn't even deserve the sales it got. That free weekend Steam did for MW3 probably killed MW3's future sales. I tried it out and it was more broken then Black Ops, which I didn't think was possible. They need to get off that broken engine and make some real advances in the game, not a boring handheld & cutscene filled disaster of a storyline.

I still don't understand why everyone keeps saying Black Ops is broken. xD I can still go join a server if I want to and enjoy it because of the overall balance of the game. I haven't been able to play MW2 (without the assistance of alterIWnet, that is; may it RIP frown.gif ) since a year after its release because of the match making system. Also.. the engine and the steam weekend probably have very little to do with weaker MW3 sales. We've never known how steam affected sales for CoD since steam doesn't release its sales data.
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COD4 was the last good game in the franchise. It was a great game for competitive gameplay, good PC support, and a overall great game. It was a game that valued skill. Something that these games today have forgotten about. I play BF3 mostly. Is it perfect? No, it's not a perfect game. It still has issues. However it sure beats the hell out of the childish mentality of most MW players. Atleast you can hook up with a solid clan, play 64vs64 and have a real sense of teamwork, and communication. MW series has lost all sense of what teamplay is, and tries to make everyone a one man army.

thats one of the main reasons im only on b3 as my fps: godamn children. i dont mind if kids play, but once they just start blabbing, crying, whining, being jealous, or just being annoying; i go to skyrim


mw is just halo with present day weapons: jump around like an ass shooting sniper rifles from the hip for headshots. i will always love fighing campers in bf3 because this is the alternative
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thats one of the main reasons im only on b3 as my fps: godamn children. i dont mind if kids play, but once they just start blabbing, crying, whining, being jealous, or just being annoying; i go to skyrim
mw is just halo with present day weapons: jump around like an ass shooting sniper rifles from the hip for headshots. i will always love fighing campers in bf3 because this is the alternative

Strangely enough unless I actually pair up on my clans server or with a few friends all I seem to notice is kids complaining/*****ing in BF3, quite the same as COD if not worse at times.
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You do realize you're on OCN, right?

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Strangely enough unless I actually pair up on my clans server or with a few friends all I seem to notice is kids complaining/*****ing in BF3, quite the same as COD if not worse at times.

i tend to just pick a different squad when i start hearing them. or try to switch teams and pick them off :-D
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Is it ironic that one of the most helpful reviews on amazon is saying that this book is a rip off of "the short story "They Died Twice" by Alan Hathaway "
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And my point is that it's not the yearly release schedule that's the problem. The problem is the publishers they're under being too controlling of the development process (specifically Activision), telling them what and what not to focus on. I've seen developers push their games within a bi-yearly development process.
I still don't understand why everyone keeps saying Black Ops is broken. xD I can still go join a server if I want to and enjoy it because of the overall balance of the game. I haven't been able to play MW2 (without the assistance of alterIWnet, that is; may it RIP frown.gif ) since a year after its release because of the match making system. Also.. the engine and the steam weekend probably have very little to do with weaker MW3 sales. We've never known how steam affected sales for CoD since steam doesn't release its sales data.

Many developers including Infinity Ward have said Activision is pretty open to the creative process, more so then most other pubs at any rate. Independent devs like Bungie wouldn't be signing ten year contracts with them if that weren't eh case. The infinity ward/acti beef had nothing to do with creative control. The problem is they release the game every year.
    
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Keeping in mind that the target customer base for these games today is between the ages of 10-20, the makers really don't have to put much thought or innovation into these games and that's reflected in the last few releases. Notice how the first 2 Call of Duty's appealed to a more mature, possibly historically conscience crowd. As the kids started picking the games up and became the main customer base, the makers adjusted in kind pushing the releases out quicker and putting less effort into each game.

A 12 year old kid with an xbox doesn't need much more than a game with M16's, explosions and terrorists to bang down the doors at Best Buy on release day. That's why these CoD/MoH/ BF games do so well with such low amounts of innovation.
    
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