Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [MP1ST]Report – PC, Wii and Battlefield 3 Contributed to Weak Modern Warfare 3 Sales
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[MP1ST]Report – PC, Wii and Battlefield 3 Contributed to Weak Modern Warfare 3 Sales - Page 5

post #41 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by PriestOfSin View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

Eh? Black Ops was the Cold War...
I think the American Revolution may be a good setting. They didn't have much technology back then, so it suits COD's developers well. lachen.gif

I uh... actually think a game based on the revolutionary war would be fun. Or the american civil war.

OOH! OR WWI. TRENCHES AND GAS MASKS... OH LORD I'M SALIVATING...

Good idea. Sit in a trench for hours, jump out and get mowed down. Repeat 5000 times, move up 10 feet. biggrin.gif
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K MSI P67A-G43 MSI GTX 460 Cyclone Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Vertex 2 WD Green ASUS Windows 7 
PowerCase
Antec TruePower New 750 HAF 922 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K MSI P67A-G43 MSI GTX 460 Cyclone Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Vertex 2 WD Green ASUS Windows 7 
PowerCase
Antec TruePower New 750 HAF 922 
  hide details  
Reply
post #42 of 60
And the IW engine is just a re-coded engine from 1999. I can't post a source yet but just google it.
Primal Destroyer
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500-k ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard B3 Radeon HD 6970 G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM (2x4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ LG Super Multi DVD rewriter 22x Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VS248H 24in Widescreen LED Monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Corsair TX-850 V2 Power Supply CoolerMaster HAF X Case Logitech Anywhere MX 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
Primal Destroyer
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500-k ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard B3 Radeon HD 6970 G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM (2x4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ LG Super Multi DVD rewriter 22x Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VS248H 24in Widescreen LED Monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Corsair TX-850 V2 Power Supply CoolerMaster HAF X Case Logitech Anywhere MX 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus 
  hide details  
Reply
post #43 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtom320 View Post

The point though is that putting your games on a yearly release schedule is the direct reason for a lack of innovation. It's barely enough time to iron the bugs out much less iterate on your gameplay. The only reason sports games get away with it is the leagues work the same way.

And my point is that it's not the yearly release schedule that's the problem. The problem is the publishers they're under being too controlling of the development process (specifically Activision), telling them what and what not to focus on. I've seen developers push their games within a bi-yearly development process.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lxcivic2k1 View Post

MW3 doesn't even deserve the sales it got. That free weekend Steam did for MW3 probably killed MW3's future sales. I tried it out and it was more broken then Black Ops, which I didn't think was possible. They need to get off that broken engine and make some real advances in the game, not a boring handheld & cutscene filled disaster of a storyline.

I still don't understand why everyone keeps saying Black Ops is broken. xD I can still go join a server if I want to and enjoy it because of the overall balance of the game. I haven't been able to play MW2 (without the assistance of alterIWnet, that is; may it RIP frown.gif ) since a year after its release because of the match making system. Also.. the engine and the steam weekend probably have very little to do with weaker MW3 sales. We've never known how steam affected sales for CoD since steam doesn't release its sales data.
Edited by moocowman - 4/20/12 at 4:54am
Is This Tomorrow?
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x6 1055t ASUS M4A89GTD MSI GTX-460 HAWK (dead D: HD 7790 or 7870 comin... GSkill 4x2GB Ripjaws DDR3-1600 [8GB] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveMonitorKeyboard
Samsung F3 1TB + 500GB Liteon DVD-RW HP LE2001w 20" HP.. meh 
PowerCaseMouse
SeaSonic x650  NZXT Beta Evo Microsoft Sidewider x5 
  hide details  
Reply
Is This Tomorrow?
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x6 1055t ASUS M4A89GTD MSI GTX-460 HAWK (dead D: HD 7790 or 7870 comin... GSkill 4x2GB Ripjaws DDR3-1600 [8GB] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveMonitorKeyboard
Samsung F3 1TB + 500GB Liteon DVD-RW HP LE2001w 20" HP.. meh 
PowerCaseMouse
SeaSonic x650  NZXT Beta Evo Microsoft Sidewider x5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #44 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazumi View Post

COD4 was the last good game in the franchise. It was a great game for competitive gameplay, good PC support, and a overall great game. It was a game that valued skill. Something that these games today have forgotten about. I play BF3 mostly. Is it perfect? No, it's not a perfect game. It still has issues. However it sure beats the hell out of the childish mentality of most MW players. Atleast you can hook up with a solid clan, play 64vs64 and have a real sense of teamwork, and communication. MW series has lost all sense of what teamplay is, and tries to make everyone a one man army.

thats one of the main reasons im only on b3 as my fps: godamn children. i dont mind if kids play, but once they just start blabbing, crying, whining, being jealous, or just being annoying; i go to skyrim


mw is just halo with present day weapons: jump around like an ass shooting sniper rifles from the hip for headshots. i will always love fighing campers in bf3 because this is the alternative
The Bull fx6100
(13 items)
 
The Bridge fx8350
(17 items)
 
Aged
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6100 GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series Corsair  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 2 TB Samsung 840 Pro 120GB Swiftech H220 Windows 8 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
47" LG HD 120Hz Logitech MX Thermaltake 650 watt  Logitech MX 
Other
Vantec HDD Cooler 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8350 ASUS Sabertooth Gen3 GIGABYTE 7850 OC 2GB XFX GeForce 9800 GT 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair XM3 western digital 550GB western digital 2TB OCZ Vertex 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
HP dvd1040 Scythe Katana 4000 Cooler windows 7 32" westinghouse 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
21.5 Vizio Cyborg V.5 530 Watt Raidmax hybrid 2 Rosewill R4000 
Mouse
Logitech M-RBQ124 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x4 620 ASUS M4A785-M XFX geforce 8500 gt 4 gb 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
2 gb hitachi 150 hiatchi 300 windows 7 x32 
MonitorPowerMouse
21" tatung 450 W Raidmax Logitech Revolution 
  hide details  
Reply
The Bull fx6100
(13 items)
 
The Bridge fx8350
(17 items)
 
Aged
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6100 GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series Corsair  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 2 TB Samsung 840 Pro 120GB Swiftech H220 Windows 8 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
47" LG HD 120Hz Logitech MX Thermaltake 650 watt  Logitech MX 
Other
Vantec HDD Cooler 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8350 ASUS Sabertooth Gen3 GIGABYTE 7850 OC 2GB XFX GeForce 9800 GT 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair XM3 western digital 550GB western digital 2TB OCZ Vertex 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
HP dvd1040 Scythe Katana 4000 Cooler windows 7 32" westinghouse 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
21.5 Vizio Cyborg V.5 530 Watt Raidmax hybrid 2 Rosewill R4000 
Mouse
Logitech M-RBQ124 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x4 620 ASUS M4A785-M XFX geforce 8500 gt 4 gb 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
2 gb hitachi 150 hiatchi 300 windows 7 x32 
MonitorPowerMouse
21" tatung 450 W Raidmax Logitech Revolution 
  hide details  
Reply
post #45 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMills View Post

thats one of the main reasons im only on b3 as my fps: godamn children. i dont mind if kids play, but once they just start blabbing, crying, whining, being jealous, or just being annoying; i go to skyrim
mw is just halo with present day weapons: jump around like an ass shooting sniper rifles from the hip for headshots. i will always love fighing campers in bf3 because this is the alternative

Strangely enough unless I actually pair up on my clans server or with a few friends all I seem to notice is kids complaining/*****ing in BF3, quite the same as COD if not worse at times.
Betsy
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 @ 3.8ghz Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L Sapphire 5850 @ 920/1200 8gb Corsair Vengance Arctic White 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x 250gb raid 0 Win 7 64bit LG Flatron 23" Razer Blackwidow 
PowerCaseMouseOther
OCZ 600W NZXT Phantom Gigabyte M6900 Razer Nostromo 
  hide details  
Reply
Betsy
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 @ 3.8ghz Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L Sapphire 5850 @ 920/1200 8gb Corsair Vengance Arctic White 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x 250gb raid 0 Win 7 64bit LG Flatron 23" Razer Blackwidow 
PowerCaseMouseOther
OCZ 600W NZXT Phantom Gigabyte M6900 Razer Nostromo 
  hide details  
Reply
post #46 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobotheklown View Post

You do realize you're on OCN, right?

lol
Us and Them
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K Intel CPU ASUS ROG Rampage IV Extreme X79 ASUS GTX Titan SLI 16gb (4x4GB) Corsair Dominator GT 2133mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2 x SSD Kingston HyperX 120GB, OCZ Vertex 3 120GB WD Caviar Black 2 TB, Western Digital 1TB Inter... Logitech BD-RW Tru Blue 32X Corsair H80 CPU Cooler 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3x Samsung 27" LED 5760 x 1080 Nvidia Surround Ducky Shine 2 Blue LED Cherry MX Red Enermax MaxRevo 1500w Cooler Master Cosmos 2 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T. 9 Wireless CM Storm Speed RX Asus Xonar HD Logitec 3-1 Surround Sound 
Other
Mini Fridge full of German Beer 
  hide details  
Reply
Us and Them
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K Intel CPU ASUS ROG Rampage IV Extreme X79 ASUS GTX Titan SLI 16gb (4x4GB) Corsair Dominator GT 2133mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2 x SSD Kingston HyperX 120GB, OCZ Vertex 3 120GB WD Caviar Black 2 TB, Western Digital 1TB Inter... Logitech BD-RW Tru Blue 32X Corsair H80 CPU Cooler 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3x Samsung 27" LED 5760 x 1080 Nvidia Surround Ducky Shine 2 Blue LED Cherry MX Red Enermax MaxRevo 1500w Cooler Master Cosmos 2 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T. 9 Wireless CM Storm Speed RX Asus Xonar HD Logitec 3-1 Surround Sound 
Other
Mini Fridge full of German Beer 
  hide details  
Reply
post #47 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardedJesus View Post

Strangely enough unless I actually pair up on my clans server or with a few friends all I seem to notice is kids complaining/*****ing in BF3, quite the same as COD if not worse at times.

i tend to just pick a different squad when i start hearing them. or try to switch teams and pick them off :-D
The Bull fx6100
(13 items)
 
The Bridge fx8350
(17 items)
 
Aged
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6100 GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series Corsair  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 2 TB Samsung 840 Pro 120GB Swiftech H220 Windows 8 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
47" LG HD 120Hz Logitech MX Thermaltake 650 watt  Logitech MX 
Other
Vantec HDD Cooler 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8350 ASUS Sabertooth Gen3 GIGABYTE 7850 OC 2GB XFX GeForce 9800 GT 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair XM3 western digital 550GB western digital 2TB OCZ Vertex 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
HP dvd1040 Scythe Katana 4000 Cooler windows 7 32" westinghouse 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
21.5 Vizio Cyborg V.5 530 Watt Raidmax hybrid 2 Rosewill R4000 
Mouse
Logitech M-RBQ124 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x4 620 ASUS M4A785-M XFX geforce 8500 gt 4 gb 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
2 gb hitachi 150 hiatchi 300 windows 7 x32 
MonitorPowerMouse
21" tatung 450 W Raidmax Logitech Revolution 
  hide details  
Reply
The Bull fx6100
(13 items)
 
The Bridge fx8350
(17 items)
 
Aged
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6100 GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series Corsair  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 2 TB Samsung 840 Pro 120GB Swiftech H220 Windows 8 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
47" LG HD 120Hz Logitech MX Thermaltake 650 watt  Logitech MX 
Other
Vantec HDD Cooler 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8350 ASUS Sabertooth Gen3 GIGABYTE 7850 OC 2GB XFX GeForce 9800 GT 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair XM3 western digital 550GB western digital 2TB OCZ Vertex 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
HP dvd1040 Scythe Katana 4000 Cooler windows 7 32" westinghouse 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
21.5 Vizio Cyborg V.5 530 Watt Raidmax hybrid 2 Rosewill R4000 
Mouse
Logitech M-RBQ124 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x4 620 ASUS M4A785-M XFX geforce 8500 gt 4 gb 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
2 gb hitachi 150 hiatchi 300 windows 7 x32 
MonitorPowerMouse
21" tatung 450 W Raidmax Logitech Revolution 
  hide details  
Reply
post #48 of 60
Is it ironic that one of the most helpful reviews on amazon is saying that this book is a rip off of "the short story "They Died Twice" by Alan Hathaway "
system 1
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X3 445 M4A77T/USB3 9800 gtx+ 2 x 2gb Gskill pc3 12800 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
WD blue 500gb Windows server 2008 R2 bfg 550w Nzxt M59 
  hide details  
Reply
system 1
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X3 445 M4A77T/USB3 9800 gtx+ 2 x 2gb Gskill pc3 12800 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
WD blue 500gb Windows server 2008 R2 bfg 550w Nzxt M59 
  hide details  
Reply
post #49 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by moocowman View Post

And my point is that it's not the yearly release schedule that's the problem. The problem is the publishers they're under being too controlling of the development process (specifically Activision), telling them what and what not to focus on. I've seen developers push their games within a bi-yearly development process.
I still don't understand why everyone keeps saying Black Ops is broken. xD I can still go join a server if I want to and enjoy it because of the overall balance of the game. I haven't been able to play MW2 (without the assistance of alterIWnet, that is; may it RIP frown.gif ) since a year after its release because of the match making system. Also.. the engine and the steam weekend probably have very little to do with weaker MW3 sales. We've never known how steam affected sales for CoD since steam doesn't release its sales data.

Many developers including Infinity Ward have said Activision is pretty open to the creative process, more so then most other pubs at any rate. Independent devs like Bungie wouldn't be signing ten year contracts with them if that weren't eh case. The infinity ward/acti beef had nothing to do with creative control. The problem is they release the game every year.
OP MicroATX build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K Asus Pz68m pro EVGA GTX GTX 670 Corsair 8GB 1600 Vengence 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial M4 Raid 0 Crucial M4 Raid 0 WD Data Drive LG Blu-Ray 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Antec Kuhler 920 Seasonic X series 750 gold Define Mini 
  hide details  
Reply
OP MicroATX build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K Asus Pz68m pro EVGA GTX GTX 670 Corsair 8GB 1600 Vengence 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial M4 Raid 0 Crucial M4 Raid 0 WD Data Drive LG Blu-Ray 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Antec Kuhler 920 Seasonic X series 750 gold Define Mini 
  hide details  
Reply
post #50 of 60
Keeping in mind that the target customer base for these games today is between the ages of 10-20, the makers really don't have to put much thought or innovation into these games and that's reflected in the last few releases. Notice how the first 2 Call of Duty's appealed to a more mature, possibly historically conscience crowd. As the kids started picking the games up and became the main customer base, the makers adjusted in kind pushing the releases out quicker and putting less effort into each game.

A 12 year old kid with an xbox doesn't need much more than a game with M16's, explosions and terrorists to bang down the doors at Best Buy on release day. That's why these CoD/MoH/ BF games do so well with such low amounts of innovation.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-4100 ASUS M5A97 Sapphire Radeon HD5770 1GB 4GB G. Skill DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
WD 5000AAKS WD 250GB 2500KS ASUS DVD-RW SATA Windows 7 Professional x64 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Samsung 23" BX2350 LCD Corsair 600W CMPSU-600G Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX500 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-4100 ASUS M5A97 Sapphire Radeon HD5770 1GB 4GB G. Skill DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
WD 5000AAKS WD 250GB 2500KS ASUS DVD-RW SATA Windows 7 Professional x64 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Samsung 23" BX2350 LCD Corsair 600W CMPSU-600G Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX500 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Game News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [MP1ST]Report – PC, Wii and Battlefield 3 Contributed to Weak Modern Warfare 3 Sales