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It's called branding. Believe it or not, the market sets the price for products, the market being the consumer. If the product is priced too high, it simply won't sell.
The perception of quality does not always have to be 'technologically' the best. The French and Japanese, for the most part have far more technology in their cars than the Germans do, yet German cars carry a higher premium due to the perception of quality, it has very little to do with the actual manufacturing costs or the hardware installed in them. Hell the VW Golf is a very basic car, technologically you could have a much more superior car for the equivalent retail price from other manufacturers yet they have a cult following as strong as Apple's, for no tangible reason.
Houses retail for higher due to being in more prestigious areas, the house may not be as well equipped, as modern or as big as one that is located 25 miles away, yet it still retails for four times the price. The area it is in may not even be a good neighbourhood, in fact your next door neighbour might be a total nightmare, but you can bet your bottom dollar you're still going to pay a premium for that property.
Listen up guys, and listen very carefully. Quality cannot be defined, you simply cannot define quality by it's technological hardware superiority, quality is not one aspect, it is a whole package, an entire perception of an entity and everything it stands for.

I'm interested to see how he's going to counter this.
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It's called branding. Believe it or not, the market sets the price for products, the market being the consumer. If the product is priced too high, it simply won't sell.
The perception of quality does not always have to be 'technologically' the best. The French and Japanese, for the most part have far more technology in their cars than the Germans do, yet German cars carry a higher premium due to the perception of quality, it has very little to do with the actual manufacturing costs or the hardware installed in them. Hell the VW Golf is a very basic car, technologically you could have a much more superior car for the equivalent retail price from other manufacturers yet they have a cult following as strong as Apple's, for no tangible reason.
Houses retail for higher due to being in more prestigious areas, the house may not be as well equipped, as modern or as big as one that is located 25 miles away, yet it still retails for four times the price. The area it is in may not even be a good neighbourhood, in fact your next door neighbour might be a total nightmare, but you can bet your bottom dollar you're still going to pay a premium for that property.
Listen up guys, and listen very carefully. Quality cannot be defined, you simply cannot define quality by it's technological hardware superiority, quality is not one aspect, it is a whole package, an entire perception of an entity and everything it stands for.
10 is not better than 9 simply because it is more, 10 is better than 9 simply because civilisation says it is. It may not be correct, but you're a small fish in a very big pond, and the majority of the pond dictate what is correct.
I'm allergic to idiots. Unfortunately there is no cure. frown.gif

You have a few key points here. Problem is I see nothing elegant about apple.
Maybe because I was blessed with common sense.
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You have a few key points here. Problem is I see nothing elegant about apple.
Maybe because I was blessed with common sense.

No, sorry, you were cursed with blind snobbery.
    
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No, sorry, you were cursed with blind snobbery.

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You have a few key points here. Problem is I see nothing elegant about apple.
Maybe because I was blessed with common sense.

I bet most of those that 'lack common sense' and buy those wholly expensive Apple products get more product satisfaction than you, quite simply because they don't have an overly critical approach to the things they buy. People buy things that they will enjoy, for reasons that cannot be quantified quite simply because we all enjoy things for different reasons.

At some point you might have to reconsider whether that common sense of yours is holding you back, seeing as they're sat there enjoying their products whilst you're sat here whining about things you know nothing about.

The thing that really bursts my bubble about this whole thing is that, for the most part, the technology in high end phones is absolutely redundant.

You buy an iPhone 4 and upgrade to the 4S, well done you now have a phone that can only access the exact same apps as the previous phone. It's exactly the same with Android and why I never bothered upgrading from my GSII. No matter what I upgrade to, it will still run the same operating system with the same apps.

No matter whether you buy a Golf or a Civic, it still gets you from A to B.

At some point you need to just ignore the technical aspects and just go with what makes you happy. Apparently right now that is Apple products and Justin Bieber, whether you like it or not.
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It's funny how Android/PC fanboys are just as arrogant as Apple fanboys.
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I'm 100% sure if this were an iPhone doing this everyone would be agreeing this is a major issue and they should be recalled to be fixed. But the moment the heralded hero HTC comes along everyone is willing to turn the other cheek and let it slide. rolleyes.gif

 

The point isn't that it's minor, the point is that it CAN happen but SHOULD NOT happen. Even if it's minor and no real world use would produce the same effect, it shows there's a weakness in the device.

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I bet most of those that 'lack common sense' and buy those wholly expensive Apple products get more product satisfaction than you, quite simply because they don't have an overly critical approach to the things they buy. People buy things that they will enjoy, for reasons that cannot be quantified quite simply because we all enjoy things for different reasons.
At some point you might have to reconsider whether that common sense of yours is holding you back, seeing as they're sat there enjoying their products whilst you're sat here whining about things you know nothing about.
The thing that really bursts my bubble about this whole thing is that, for the most part, the technology in high end phones is absolutely redundant.
You buy an iPhone 4 and upgrade to the 4S, well done you now have a phone that can only access the exact same apps as the previous phone. It's exactly the same with Android and why I never bothered upgrading from my GSII. No matter what I upgrade to, it will still run the same operating system with the same apps.
No matter whether you buy a Golf or a Civic, it still gets you from A to B.
At some point you need to just ignore the technical aspects and just go with what makes you happy. Apparently right now that is Apple products and Justin Bieber, whether you like it or not.

No they normally ending with the famous saying "I wish my phone could do that".thumb.gif
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I think people are not used to the idea that a corporate can produce its products that are 100% everytime, all the time and throughout its lines..

That's why pointing out silly things (not flaws) which would never cause problems in the performance or lifetime of the device..

Well other than that who would try to even fit that darn phone into the pocket its quite big..

and another thing, why even the remotest discussions on OCN about phones turn into Apple vs. Others thread..

Apple makes great products (ipods) , their phones are good too, just because they troll on patents, portray themselves as a premium brand and sell hardware,when from other vendors cost only half, They sell a complete product which comes with its own software and I think they price their software more, why wouldn't they ? they spend a lot of resources to get it running perfectly and flawlessly on their devices and support updates throughout the products life cycle and sometimes even in its afterlife and yeah run crazy customer support systems...

also the only real issue I would be really worried about One X and S devices are the paint chipping off, which is a isolated case as reported by HTC..
Edited by dragonxwas - 5/13/12 at 1:33pm
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No they normally ending with the famous saying "I wish my phone could do that".thumb.gif

I like how that's all you have to say.

In reality though, the only major thing that Android phones can do over iPhones are flashing ROM's and kernels. Whoopty do. I don't wish that I could flash custom kernels with my 4S because it's already fast enough to do anything and gets amazing battery life, so what's the point? If anything, it can make your phone incredibly unstable.
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I bet most of those that 'lack common sense' and buy those wholly expensive Apple products get more product satisfaction than you, quite simply because they don't have an overly critical approach to the things they buy. People buy things that they will enjoy, for reasons that cannot be quantified quite simply because we all enjoy things for different reasons.
At some point you might have to reconsider whether that common sense of yours is holding you back, seeing as they're sat there enjoying their products whilst you're sat here whining about things you know nothing about.
The thing that really bursts my bubble about this whole thing is that, for the most part, the technology in high end phones is absolutely redundant.
You buy an iPhone 4 and upgrade to the 4S, well done you now have a phone that can only access the exact same apps as the previous phone. It's exactly the same with Android and why I never bothered upgrading from my GSII. No matter what I upgrade to, it will still run the same operating system with the same apps.
No matter whether you buy a Golf or a Civic, it still gets you from A to B.
At some point you need to just ignore the technical aspects and just go with what makes you happy. Apparently right now that is Apple products and Justin Bieber, whether you like it or not.

The Golf however, would give you better fuel consumption.
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