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Microsoft isn't making you do anything. They're simply offering a product that they think would is a good evolution from Windows 7. Now, whether consumers want/like it or not, is up to them.
I've been using Windows 8 CP for 7 weeks now and I can tell you, I was a little apprehensive at first, but after using it for a few weeks, I'm not missing Windows 7 one bit.

This is how everyone will feel. All the folks hating it now will migrate, because thats what we do
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I actually quite like Microsoft as a company, and I wish them every success.
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Ms and intel havent went to the trouble of becoming hardcore allies again for no reason.ms and intel arent even scratching google android paintt.ipad?apple say when you make a scratch to android tablet then you can speak to us.intel can ignore this but ms cannot.so clearly ms bowed to intel and decided to speed up tgeitheir time table and go at it the intel way.and trust me here ms will need all its might to keep up with intel way but if they do .they ll be on equal term with apple in a near futur.never expectected ms to accept intel way.dam the toy we are about to get will be so awsome.ty ms for deciding .im pretty sure it waasnt easy saying yes to intel
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The good:
PC gamers won't have to wait anymore for obnoxious developers to do a horrible port of some console games we want on PC.
Since the console games would run on Windows 8, they would be just as stable as their console counterpart.
No need to buy a console, you can play the games on Windows 8.
Less console sales at launch means Microsoft won't lose millions of dollars (consoles are typically sold at a loss for the first year or two of sales). This COULD result in a decrease in game prices, to compete against Sony. The main reason games became $60 is because 360/PS3 were sold at a pretty bad loss at launch.
The bad:
No more PC exclusive games. Developers have little to 0 benefits in doing so.
Craptacular console-esque games are all that we'd have on PC. We would be permanently "stuck" with whatever the current-gen console hardware can offer, making it pretty pointless to have even a single high-end GPU or CPU for gaming.

This would be amazing. All of a sudden, any PC specific developers would have to look for something other than windows to run their games on...

Hello Steam OS.
post #45 of 65
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This would be amazing. All of a sudden, any PC specific developers would have to look for something other than windows to run their games on...
Hello Steam OS.

This doesn't even make sense. The point he is making is, there wouldn't be the "PC platform" to develop on anymore. They would make it just for consoles because the PC games would be the same exact copy of the console game. Sure, you have the few, very few, developers that would make a PC game, but they'd never jump to a new OS. The only reason they take the time to put it on Windows instead of OS's like Linux isn't because of difficulty, but because so many people use Windows. Steam OS, would never happen.
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Yes, so instead of paying $50- for a crappy console port, you get to pay $60+ for a console game! SO AWESOME.

Your point? If I'm paying $60 for a game that runs as it should then I'm fine. You'd rather pay less money for the same game that runs worse on better hardware?
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post #47 of 65
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What if...
What if the next Xbox runs Windows 8 (and it runs well).
MS will literally have to start burning money.

This would pretty much mean the end of the PS3/PS4, and would probably kill off a fair Apple market share too.
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Your point? If I'm paying $60 for a game that runs as it should then I'm fine. You'd rather pay less money for the same game that runs worse on better hardware?

It is the principle. Now they will have another reason to not be efficient and do their jobs properly.
Also, I am assuming the only console games that would be playable on a PC would be an Xbox game. This would mean you'd have to go through a Windows service to do it, having you pay an extra $60 per year just to play the game online. Or, you could stick to the cheaper PC version through Steam and play online for free. So, I rather take the slight performance hit on a port if it allows me to save the initial game cost difference along with the service cost.
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Steam OS hey? I don't fancy losing access to my files every time the servers go down. I also don't fancy mandatory updates.
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post #50 of 65
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It is the principle. Now they will have another reason to not be efficient and do their jobs properly.
Also, I am assuming the only console games that would be playable on a PC would be an Xbox game. This would mean you'd have to go through a Windows service to do it, having you pay an extra $60 per year just to play the game online. Or, you could stick to the cheaper PC version through Steam and play online for free. So, I rather take the slight performance hit on a port if it allows me to save the initial game cost difference along with the service cost.

It's surprising that we get any games on PC, console port or not. Developers aren't the ones to blame, it's the publishers. They're the ones telling them to have the game done by X and which platform they should cater to the most, so they have to abide by that. The devs are doing their job. Just because PC gaming is the minority, which they don't cater to, doesn't mean you need to say something as offensive and rude as 'they're not doing their jobs properly.'

And I don't think it would go through Xbox LIVE. That would mean you'd be playing online on Microsoft's servers, against console players, and Microsoft has already said on numerous occasions that cross-platform gaming is something they've tried and wouldn't like to do. All of my GFWL games I can play online, and I don't have to have an active Xbox LIVE Gold subscription to do so. So I don't think that would happen.

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Me personally? I wouldn't care if we got charged to use it. It would give me more use out of my Xbox LIVE account. I'm already an active XBL Gold member, so the value of it just got a lot higher.
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