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21-inch All-in-one desktops at a resolution of 3840x2160.
Completely and totally unnecessary. You can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 21" display. Unless you have 20/20 vision you can't tell the difference. High def is 720p/1080p. My 36" flat screen CRT TV is 720p and the picture is very very good. On LCDs 1080p only begins to shine on 28" and up.

This is COMPLETELY FALSE.

I am too tired right now to do the math for you but it's simple.

1/ For a 21inch screen the optimal viewing distance is 0.9 meter
2/ DPI at 720p is 69.93 and at 1080p it's 104.9
3/ The human eye resolution power is 3 minutes of arc

Do the maths

And 3 minutes of arc is ob the VERY LOW END, a normal eye have a resolution power of 1 minute
Edited by darknight670 - 4/20/12 at 12:48am
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Take four thin-bezel 1920x1080 monitors and form a square. Congrats! You now have a 4K monitor.
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1080p sucks. People that like it are holding back progress. I want 1440p to become the standard already, so we can move on from that.


Those saying "1080p will last forever" you are like the old people that said Radio would never work, that TV was a fad, that color was a trend, etc etc etc.



Edit: If the demand for real HD wasn't so high, you wouldn't have multi monitor setups being so common.
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I've compared my two displays many times:
30" 2560x1600 Samsung 305T+ ($1200) @ 2-3 feet
55" 1920x1080 HX929 ($2800) @ 7-8 feet

My 55" wins hands down in PQ and gaming. The only thing I prefer my 30" for is desktop space. Resolution is not everything, there are other features that make the PQ much better or much worse. It's the people that grab a huge screen with 1080p, then sit 2-3 feet away from it like a normal monitor. 1080p will still be mainstream for a very long time. It offers great performance, and for gamers, it doesn't take much to run it.

Until we get hardware that is capable of running 4x2k resolution on a single GPU, I will stay with 1080p. I do not mind sitting 7-8 back from a 55" screen, in fact I prefer it because it gives way more immersion than my 30". I cannot tell a difference in pixel density between these at the above distances, and I do have 20/20 vision. Obviously, if I sat 2-3 feet from my 55" I could tell a difference, but anyone who does that clearly should of went with a smaller monitor.
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Edit: If the demand for real HD wasn't so high, you wouldn't have multi monitor setups being so common.

I've messed around on some very high end multi-monitor setups and still could care less for them. I still prefer one monitor for gaming.
Edited by Murlocke - 4/20/12 at 1:09am
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I've compared my two displays many times:
30" 2560x1600 Samsung 305T+ ($1200) @ 2-3 feet
55" 1920x1080 HX929 ($2800) @ 7-8 feet
My 55" wins hands down in PQ and gaming. The only thing I prefer my 30" for is desktop space. Resolution is not everything, there are other features that make the PQ much better or much worse. It's the people that grab a huge screen with 1080p, then sit 2-3 feet away from it like a normal monitor. 1080p will still be mainstream for a very long time. It offers great performance, and for gamers, it doesn't take much to run it.
Until we get hardware that is capable of running 4x2k resolution on a single GPU, I will stay with 1080p. I do not mind sitting 7-8 back from a 55" screen, in fact I prefer it because it gives way more immersion than my 30". I cannot tell a difference in pixel density between these at the above distances, and I do have 20/20 vision. Obviously, if I sat 2-3 feet from my 55" I could tell a difference, but anyone who does that clearly should of went with a smaller monitor.
I've messed around on some very high end multi-monitor setups and still could care less for them. I still prefer one monitor for gaming.
When it comes to PC gaming, the majority of people have high PPI monitors and sit relatively close to them. Of course if you're 8 feet away, you probably couldn't see a big difference between 4K and 1080p.

I can agree with you on 1080p being mainstream for a while, since they've mastered the monitors. They have high-quality IPS/PLS ones now, mainstream VA ones, gaming-efficient TN ones, etc. Although I think higher resolutions make a huge difference on image quality. I don't think the chief purpose of higher-resolution monitors should be PPI, however, like the articles suggest. Cramming 300ppi won't do anything for desktop monitors. The purpose of higher resolutions relative to gaming is clarity and detail by a heightening the total composition of pixels.

Look at these images:
http://www.threespeech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/BFBC3.jpg
http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/images/bf2news/Guadal_001.jpg

You cannot tell me those do not look amazing with the long-range clarity, and that shrinking it to 1080p would do it the same justice.

Hopefully companies start pushing out more powerful cables, GPUs, and panels to make this mainstream soon. 1080p was impressive and welcomed at one point, not anymore. The reason you're seeing multi-monitor setups being popular right now is because people are trying to escape the standard, but obviously the expense and immaturity of the current high-res monitors make it a less viable option compared to multi-monitors.
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wonder how high or resolution we can see with our eyes before it becomes a waste. you know what i mean when will high definition surpass our eyes ability to see it.
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1080p sucks. People that like it are holding back progress. I want 1440p to become the standard already, so we can move on from that.
Those saying "1080p will last forever" you are like the old people that said Radio would never work, that TV was a fad, that color was a trend, etc etc etc.
Edit: If the demand for real HD wasn't so high, you wouldn't have multi monitor setups being so common.


1080p isn't even standard if you are willing to look anywhere outside of the gaming scenes

and @bold : SO common? well prove it. How much percentage of computers are hooked to multiple moniters?

I've talked to a lot of people, and among non-gamers, I've yet to talk to anyone who even KNOW you can build something like that at home, unless you want to count plugging a laptop onto a desktop monitor.
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1080p isn't even standard if you are willing to look anywhere outside of the gaming scenes

This so much. The biggest part of all computer and monitor sales are by companies in a work environtment. Most of the software used for accounting etc doesn't even support 720p.
 
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When it comes to PC gaming, the majority of people have high PPI monitors and sit relatively close to them. Of course if you're 8 feet away, you probably couldn't see a big difference between 4K and 1080p.
I can agree with you on 1080p being mainstream for a while, since they've mastered the monitors. They have high-quality IPS/PLS ones now, mainstream VA ones, gaming-efficient TN ones, etc. Although I think higher resolutions make a huge difference on image quality. I don't think the chief purpose of higher-resolution monitors should be PPI, however, like the articles suggest. Cramming 300ppi won't do anything for desktop monitors. The purpose of higher resolutions relative to gaming is clarity and detail by a heightening the total composition of pixels.
Look at these images:
http://www.threespeech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/BFBC3.jpg
http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/images/bf2news/Guadal_001.jpg
You cannot tell me those do not look amazing with the long-range clarity, and that shrinking it to 1080p would do it the same justice.
Hopefully companies start pushing out more powerful cables, GPUs, and panels to make this mainstream soon. 1080p was impressive and welcomed at one point, not anymore. The reason you're seeing multi-monitor setups being popular right now is because people are trying to escape the standard, but obviously the expense and immaturity of the current high-res monitors make it a less viable option compared to multi-monitors.

Yea I do agree, my main problem is that when you throw a large resolution on a tiny monitor.. the clarity just isn't there because your eyes have a hard time seeing tiny details on a tiny screen. I could tell on my 30" that if the screen was 36"+ I would of enjoyed it more. The quality is there, but my eye's just couldn't see a large difference because the resolution wanted to "stretch" out more. I do have 20/20 vision, after my glasses, and I still feel that I see more detail on my 55" 1080p at 8 feet, then I did on my 30" 1600p at 3 feet because of this fact. I've set them on side by side and done comparisons. Little details are "larger" and more noticeable on the 55", so I notice little things much easier. On my 30", those things went unnoticed because those little details were just too small on the screen.

30" at 2560x1600 is definitely not a waste, but if we had 36"+ 2560x1600 monitors i'd feel a heck of a lot better about them. You can only cram so many pixels into so many inches before it comes down to other specs (like backlight bleeding, color accuracy, contrast ratio, etc).
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I have been tempted to go for a 30" dell screen for a while, but a grand for a monitor just seems to steep for me, especially when it is just 30".
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