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I have been tempted to go for a 30" dell screen for a while, but a grand for a monitor just seems to steep for me, especially when it is just 30".

I also compared my Samsung 240T (24" 1200p) to my Samsung 305T+ (30" 1600p), and I can say there was not a very big quality difference between them. You basically step up from 24" to 30" with no quality loss due to the increase resolution, but it doesn't "look" better, it just looks bigger. It also is a heck of a lot harder to run...

The Samsung 305T+ is on par with the 30" dell monitors according to most reviews. Your basically spending over 2x more to get 6" more. You get more desktop space, but quality wise, I just didn't see a large difference in games. 1600p needs more than 30" to spread out... which is why i'm skeptical about these smaller monitors having even a larger resolution. For gamers, it's just going to end up with you needing a way better computer with very little quality difference.
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Which means NVIDIA and AMD will be all over super-high res displays for this very reason.

im sure the R&D is already in the works
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but 1080p is a very high resolution already. I could easily see monitors go higher than 1080p but TV's I do not think so because even at a 4k resolution it is impossible to tell the difference unless you have an imax in your house.

Funny you should mention that. Once we have consumer level 4Kx2K projectors the theaters are going to be in trouble. I have a decent DLP projector already looks better than everything but IMAX.
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wonder how high or resolution we can see with our eyes before it becomes a waste. you know what i mean when will high definition surpass our eyes ability to see it.

For me? 7680x4320 in a 24" monitor would probably do it. Other people would need a little less though.
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a way better computer with very little quality difference.

Isn't that the point of OCN? tongue.gif
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TV will be what pushes the standard forward in the mainstream. The mainstream didn't care about 720 or 1080 until you could buy TVs and have something to watch at that resolution. How many of you remember going to relatives houses back in the late 90s and early 00s to see a 640x480 or 800x600 res on the momitor? Cable providers were too short sighted in the US and their infrastructure sucks (or they are being cheap) and don't even offer full 1080 on most channels. What makes you think they are gonna be able to keep up? And don't get me started on how much middle America will be pissed if they have ro buy a new video format already.

Sadly this means next gen consoles probably won't push anything higher than 1080 either so you know what that means.
    
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I've compared my two displays many times:
30" 2560x1600 Samsung 305T+ ($1200) @ 2-3 feet
55" 1920x1080 HX929 ($2800) @ 7-8 feet
My 55" wins hands down in PQ and gaming. The only thing I prefer my 30" for is desktop space. Resolution is not everything, there are other features that make the PQ much better or much worse. It's the people that grab a huge screen with 1080p, then sit 2-3 feet away from it like a normal monitor. 1080p will still be mainstream for a very long time. It offers great performance, and for gamers, it doesn't take much to run it.
Until we get hardware that is capable of running 4x2k resolution on a single GPU, I will stay with 1080p. I do not mind sitting 7-8 back from a 55" screen, in fact I prefer it because it gives way more immersion than my 30". I cannot tell a difference in pixel density between these at the above distances, and I do have 20/20 vision. Obviously, if I sat 2-3 feet from my 55" I could tell a difference, but anyone who does that clearly should of went with a smaller monitor.
I've messed around on some very high end multi-monitor setups and still could care less for them. I still prefer one monitor for gaming.

The 55" at 7-8 feet will take up much less of your view-able area versus a 30" at 2-3 feet. That also with the consideration of the lower resolution, I don't know how the 55" TV could provide more "immersion". confused.gif
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The 55" at 7-8 feet will take up much less of your view-able area versus a 30" at 2-3 feet. That also with the consideration of the lower resolution, I don't know how the 55" TV could provide more "immersion". confused.gif

That was my thought as well.

If people would rather have 4Kx2K on a 55" screen more power to them. In the end all I really want is to stuff more visual information down the pipes and into the squishy thing between my ears. How it gets there isn't a big deal.
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I don't really look forward to this, personally.
Here's why: Windows scales like crap. I'm looking at my 23-inch display and imagining how awfully unusable it would be if everything was half the size it is now. Sure, I'd have more desktop space, but I wouldn't be able to read anything. So what do I do then? Use the zoom function of my web browser, which is likely to break the layout of tons of websites. If I don't zoom, it's not going to be legible, and again, tons of websites are going to look like a thin column of content in the middle of a giant window full of nothing.
A somewhat appealing notion would be if it did things like Apple's Retina display, where everything is the same size as usual, just sharper -- but then your desktop real estate remains essentially the same.
Of course it's the same problem with Mac OS, I'm not singling out Windows here. It's obvious even on the 27-inch iMac, although it's still very usable.

Other, big problem for gamers obviously: just about every video card struggles to run games at 2560x1440 (or x1600) -- double that, and how are things going to behave? Even double of 1920x1080 would be problematic.

On a personal note, I rather like being able to do some light gaming on my 11-inch, 1366x768 Ultrabook. I would no longer be able to game if the resolution was twice that (or even just 1920x1080).
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4K @ 34" would be great... but we can't even get half that.
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I don't really look forward to this, personally.
Here's why: Windows scales like crap. I'm looking at my 23-inch display and imagining how awfully unusable it would be if everything was half the size it is now. Sure, I'd have more desktop space, but I wouldn't be able to read anything. So what do I do then? Use the zoom function of my web browser, which is likely to break the layout of tons of websites. If I don't zoom, it's not going to be legible, and again, tons of websites are going to look like a thin column of content in the middle of a giant window full of nothing.
A somewhat appealing notion would be if it did things like Apple's Retina display, where everything is the same size as usual, just sharper -- but then your desktop real estate remains essentially the same.
Of course it's the same problem with Mac OS, I'm not singling out Windows here. It's obvious even on the 27-inch iMac, although it's still very usable.
Other, big problem for gamers obviously: just about every video card struggles to run games at 2560x1440 (or x1600) -- double that, and how are things going to behave? Even double of 1920x1080 would be problematic.
On a personal note, I rather like being able to do some light gaming on my 11-inch, 1366x768 Ultrabook. I would no longer be able to game if the resolution was twice that (or even just 1920x1080).

Hey! Look at this! You can run Battlefield 3 at 96 FPS on a 2560x1600 monitor using a single 7970!

4Kx2K will be no problem.

(If everyone insists on running crippling AA and shading effects, then of course you'll never get a good framerate at high resolutions.)
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