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Is it ok to do a system test without water in the loop?

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Hi folks, I'm doing my first lq cooling install. All my hardware was fully functional on air cooling, but during the radiator and pump install I pretty much had to remove most of the parts to get stuff to fit, before putting everything back in. My CPU has the water block on it and I am ready to put water into the loop. My question though is, before I run a leak test (for which I will use a separate PSU, leaving the main disconnected) with water in the loop I wanted to make sure all the hardawre still worked since I see that emptying the loop can be a pain once you add water and find something wont run / boot.

Is it OK to run the CPU with the empty water block for a short period to make sure the system posts and gets to the OS? (I have an SSD so it wont take more than a minute to test)
Edited by zerocraft - 4/19/12 at 4:20pm
post #2 of 10
No, its going to get really hot, really fast.
post #3 of 10
A few seconds should be fine but a minute? Absolutely not. It would be pretty much like that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdcMqWM1DE

Any test wouldn't be conclusive anyway since the system will crash because of overheating.
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i wouldnt even chance it. its not worth the damage that it could cause. your cpu and gpu will heat up very very quickly
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Definitely a no no. One thing to also consider, is not only that the CPU will overheat very quickly, but if the pump runs for too long without liquid it will burn out.
    
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A few seconds should be fine but a minute? Absolutely not. It would be pretty much like that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdcMqWM1DE
Any test wouldn't be conclusive anyway since the system will crash because of overheating.

whoa, thats definitely not going to work haha, I guess Ill just throw in the stock cooler for now and remount the water block once I know everything is working
post #7 of 10
I do that all the time. Make sure it isn't overclocked, and don't do anything too long in windows. It should be good for a few minutes, depending on block size and construction (aka a block with more metal mass takes longer to heat up). Also, don't have the pump connected, pumpo running dry is a no no.
    
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A few seconds should be fine but a minute? Absolutely not. It would be pretty much like that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdcMqWM1DE
Any test wouldn't be conclusive anyway since the system will crash because of overheating.

whoa, thats definitely not going to work haha, I guess Ill just throw in the stock cooler for now and remount the water block once I know everything is working

Why though? Unless you knowing did something that could have harmed your set up when you had to take it apart, like dropping your GPU/motherboard, dropping something major onto the motherboard, etc, it's still going to work. PC components are pretty resilient, simply taking them apart and putting them together is not an issue to cause them to stop working. Just fill up that loop and enjoy the PC. Don't worry about taking off the CPU block, putting on a HSF, booting, then tearing it down to repeat. Unless you know there's something bad that happened, just fill it up and go.
post #9 of 10
Bump no go. With no pump system will work and shut down in 10-20s and you have to cool again to power it up. The heat protection will kick in. Happened to me when i forgot to turn pump on. Did no know why my system was hutting down in less then 10 seconds.
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post #10 of 10
If you're just talking about running the CPU without pump turned on (not the GPU) then yes, it should be ok for a few mins, just make sure you run at default clocks/voltage.
The reflow procedure for the Indigo Xtreme TIM requires one to do just that: turning off the pump and running some benchs to stress the CPU to 100%.
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