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Welcome to OCN! Rivaldog has already given you some good advice in terms of hardware and if you need any step by step guides you can try www.mysuperpc.com which is really geared to those who have no idea where to start with a new build. I used it myself on my first build and found it very informative.

Even though I currently am running 2 7970's in crossfire I would really recommend any new builders to stick with Nvidia cards simply because their drivers are far less fussy and they are much better with support than AMD. I previously had GTX 560Ti and GTX 580 single card and SLI setups and Nvidia's drivers were always plug and play whereas I have faced a lot of niggling issues with my 7970's. Not that they are bad cards, just more for advanced users. You don't want to be a new builder trying to trouble shoot driver errors and downloading .dll files to place in your system folders. Pick up a GTX 580 if on a budget or a 680 for comparable 7970 performance with less headaches. Either card should allow you to max most games at at least 30fps.

Keep in mind that your PSU is critical when choosing hardware. I know you've already been told this but I want to emphasize it. Stick with Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, Silverstone, etc and choose wattage based on your gpu. For any single card setup 500-600W is plenty but if you ever plan to add a gpu go with an 850W for 580's or a 750W for 680's.

As for the actual build, the best advice I can give is don't panic when it goes wrong because it WILL go wrong. You are guaranteed to forget to plug in the CPU power connector or to not seat the ram correctly or make a million other simple mistakes that will lead to a newly built computer that does nothing when you hit that power button for the first time. Take it slow and check and recheck every connection as you go.

Most importantly, have fun and be sure to post pics when you get it all done!
Edited by Majin SSJ Eric - 4/22/12 at 7:54pm
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^^Thanks, Brandon. I'm definitely a "take your time and do it right the first time" sort of guy. Your advice will not go unheeded thumb.gif
I'm actually going to be ordering all of this within the next few days, so if anybody has any other advice that you think I'll need before then, I'm all ears. I just need to get everything ordered before the rebates expire.

So what is your final list of parts for your build? biggrin.gif
So we might be able to make some last minute changes if needed.
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I'll just leave it there.
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Welcome to the forums mate. Heaps of good advise has already been sent your way already but just remember that games are still more GPU intensive than CPU so I'd recommend a 2500k and use the saved money to get either a better single card solution or go down the path of Crossfire / SLI. thumb.gif
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Thanks for the continued advice!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7bzN

I will also be picking up:

Xonar DG 5.1 Sound Card
Ethernet Cable
HDMI Cable
(Maybe) Crucial M4 SSD 128GB
Tridef 3D (for 3D gaming)

The mouse and keyboard aren't set in stone. My father sells office supplies, including computer accessories. So I will likely get a wireless mouse / keyboard at wholesale cost from his catalog.

My monitor will be my TV, and I will be operating the computer from my couch.

And I'm going to throw in a pair of blue CCFLs for fun factor wink.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811994001
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So what is your final list of parts for your build? biggrin.gif
So we might be able to make some last minute changes if needed.

Yeah this would be a good idea, post your final build choice and let's do a quick review before you start ordering thumb.gif

Make sure everything is just right.
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Just one piece of advice from me. Never get two lesser cards instead of a single powerful card. Even if you are getting a bit less performance. In other words that 7970 is a much better investment then a 6990 even though the 6990 is slightly faster. SLI/CF just introduce a ton of problems and incompatibilites that are not fun for anyone to deal with much less someone new.

Also make sure you get a good PSU. Personally I always buy Seasonic because they are the OEM supplier for pretty much every PSU manufacturer out there and they just make really great stuff. There are other good companies though but it's a long list and you'll have to do your own research on this. For a single GPU system any quality 500 watt unit will be fine. For any dual card system a *good* quality 750 watt will be fine. Most of the time power usage requirments are blown way out of the water. A reason a company like Seasonic is recomended is because their PSU's can often output much higher numbers then there stated amount to maintain efficiency ratings. I ran two overclocked 480s on an X-750 without issue for over a year. With the new even less power hungry 7970/680s there is no need to go above 750 watts ever unless you want to get into tri-gpu systems.

For gaming you will not need hyperthreading don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Make sure you get an SSD even if only as a boot drive for windows.

Make sure to keep your drivers and application profiles up to date especially if you do get that 7970.
    
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Just one piece of advice from me. Never get two lesser cards instead of a single powerful card. Even if you are getting a bit less performance. In other words that 7970 is a much better investment then a 6990 even though the 6990 is slightly faster. SLI/CF just introduce a ton of problems and incompatibilites that are not fun for anyone to deal with much less someone new.
Also make sure you get a good PSU. Personally I always buy Seasonic because they are the OEM supplier for pretty much every PSU manufacturer out there and they just make really great stuff. There are other good companies though but it's a long list and you'll have to do your own research on this. For a single GPU system any quality 500 watt unit will be fine. For any dual card system a *good* quality 750 watt will be fine. Most of the time power usage requirments are blown way out of the water. A reason a company like Seasonic is recomended is because their PSU's can often output much higher numbers then there stated amount to maintain efficiency ratings. I ran two overclocked 480s on an X-750 without issue for over a year. With the new even less power hungry 7970/680s there is no need to go above 750 watts ever unless you want to get into tri-gpu systems.
For gaming you will not need hyperthreading don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Make sure you get an SSD even if only as a boot drive for windows.
Make sure to keep your drivers and application profiles up to date especially if you do get that 7970.

Yep to pretty much all of that! thumb.gif
post #49 of 57
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Rival - I think I posted while you were typing out your post. Look one post above your last one biggrin.gif. My build is almost exactly as we worked together to come up with.

jtom - Thanks for the advice. I feel more confident about going with the solo 7970 now. I was on the fence about the SSD, but I believe you've pushed me over the edge, and have helped me to decide to go ahead and buy it.

I will probably submit the order tonight (it's 9:03AM where I am now).
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Yeah it seems you did tongue.gif lol Everything looks all clear to me though, I'm jealous of your build! Hahaha Thinking about selling my PS3 and all my games to get a second 6870 2GB so I can have everything running as smooth as a 7970 lol

Congratulations on the build smile.gif
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