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If SC2 is any example, cases like that will be rare.
I'd rather have the game be 100% online then have hackers and people editing the game. Almost everything is client side (rolls, spawns, map generation, characters, items), making it extremely hard to hack/edit things, and when you do they can track it with Warden resulting in a quick ban. It is almost impossible to pirate the game, SC2 still cannot be successfully pirated.
It's one of the big reasons why the game will be successful over games like Titan Quest. D3 would flop if the items and characters meant nothing. Titan Quest would of done much better if it's characters weren't so easy to edit.

What? SC2 has been on piratebay for a long time. I own two copies that I bought cuz I love starcraft (actually went through like 5 copies of BW lol). You can play single player and vs AI. In fact SWIM actually downloaded the beta with a crack to play vs AI and later got into beta, so SC2 has been pirateable since before it was released.

If your saying its not possible to have LAN then yes, Blizzard hasn't coded that in because they are greedy and are either afraid of pirating, KESPA, or both. Either way that has nothing to do with pirating and everything to do with greedy devs. Its the same reason why you can only have 1 1v1 team so you cant offrace, and you can't play cross region...

In BW there was ICCUP and other ladders as well as you could make INFINITE characters but only one per CD key and access all regions (even if it lags).
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$60 in Connecticut vs Rural Georgia is why.... thats more than i take home a day and i have a good job in the IT field with a 4 year degree... games are just too expensive, i always pick them up a few months after release at a discount but blizzard games take forever to drop in price and that along with the crappy internet here will keep me from playing it.

I'm a poor college student here lol. I have had money put aside for this game since I preordered the CE back in November. That's the only reason I will be able to get the CE at all. Proper planning always works! thumb.gif.
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What? SC2 has been on piratebay for a long time. I own two copies that I bought cuz I love starcraft (actually went through like 5 copies of BW lol). You can play single player and vs AI. In fact SWIM actually downloaded the beta with a crack to play vs AI and later got into beta, so SC2 has been pirateable since before it was released.
If your saying its not possible to have LAN then yes, Blizzard hasn't coded that in because they are greedy and are either afraid of pirating, KESPA, or both. Either way that has nothing to do with pirating and everything to do with greedy devs. Its the same reason why you can only have 1 1v1 team so you cant offrace, and you can't play cross region...
In BW there was ICCUP and other ladders as well as you could make INFINITE characters but only one per CD key and access all regions (even if it lags).

Already been explained that pirated SC2 is no where near the same as legit SC2. 95% that buy SC2 play for multiplayer with official rankings. I don't even count the pirated version of SC2 as the game.

Blizzard being greedy? They make enjoyable games by making many of the features client-side to prevent hacking, cheating, etc. How is making you sign on their servers to play the game greedy? If anything it cost them more money to have those servers running 24/7.
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Games graphics suck, and it feels like if you made WoW super simple and streamlined (which isnt bad). The angled view is super irritating especially when you kind of have to guess were to click and pathing works to some degree but having to constantly click or hold a button is annoying running around a dungeon. It would be nice if you could also move with WSAD instead of having to hold a modifier to not move. Its super annoying to do because its basically throwing out what every other game has done right.
I beat the demo in a few hours but I was already bored half way through. Its super easy and clicking bookshelves and breaking pots is a pretty lame way to pass time. I never even came close to dying except on the skeleton king cuz I was trying to get him to smash his own guys. Even then still beat it on first try.
What they should have done is let us play some difficult areas on a harder mode with most of our abilities and glyphs and such. The game being so easy and because of that boring makes me not care or want to buy it. No challenge no fun. Also seems like an endless grind with the point of improving numbers for no reason and then not balancing or even having pvp on launch? Really Blizzard? GW2 might be ok but D3 I might borrow from a friend and beat it once. I guess Blizzard had too much on its plate so it made D3 really crappy.
You cant customize your characters looks? If you cant thats pretty lame even if its just minor things like hair color.
Why is the minimap not where starcrafts is??!!??!?!? Why can't I customize my UI??!!?
Why do I have to hold a modifier to move when this games uses almost no keys at all? Why cant I bind WSAD?!!?!?? At least have the option.
Why isnt there an option to make walls and pillars not block your LoS ever so you can see terrain, even if enemies are in fog of war? Same reason why cant I rotate my camera? I used to hate capcom games b/c they never let u move your camera and it works for horror but not for grinding.
Could be wrong about a lot but I dont see a point in a non pvp balanced game.

Sorry, but I read your post and LOL. Because everything you are hating on is what actually done right. Maybe besides the graphics, but I still like it a lot. Finally got a chance to play it and it is Diablo indeed. The only thing I really dislike is the skill tree system, D2 system was way better.
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Why stop reading?
They are more cartoony and softer, but I just spent 5 minutes looking at a SS of each, and I prefer the harsher more realistic D2 graphics.
I played the beta lol, the camera is still a million miles away from the action, so maybe the graphics are super good close up, but thats not what you see far away. Looks the same to me.
If I'm missing something let me know, like I said I played for 10 minutes, didn't even dig into any options menu or anything.

It is an off topic conversation and I don't want to beat a dead horse for what seems like the 50th time here at OCN. It isn't worth my time to explain how a 2012 game's graphics are superior to its predecessor released 11 years ago. It is such a ridiculous argument that I feel as if you are trolling me.

Obviously they are technically better. I'm saying to me they dont look better. The best way I can describe them is like a fluffy painting. That's the landscape specifically

I also promise I am not trolling, I was baiting you to convince me why Diablo III is awesome, because I would very much like to play but still wasn't impressed lol.
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I'm a poor college student here lol. I have had money put aside for this game since I preordered the CE back in November. That's the only reason I will be able to get the CE at all. Proper planning always works! thumb.gif.

it just sucks they make the prices cheaper for poorer countries but people fail to see the differences in wages in america. i could get a russian key for a game at half price but here i must wait.
no way i am moving to another state, i like my cheap cost of living and the weather plus the fact i can go out in my back yard and blast off a few rounds from the ak or ar and nobody complains smile.gif i will simply wait out the price like i do with everything else or if i can find a copy for less on a russian key site i will pick it up there but 60 bucks is just too much.
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Exactly.. My original statement is true. It's still impossible to pirate the game.
I don't consider playing against AI in skirmish pirating the game. tongue.gif
1/3 of the first act of a 4 act game on the easiest difficutly of 4 difficulties. You can't expect the game to be very challenging. tongue.gif
Customizing character's appearance and UI? Diablo games have never been about that stuff. Armor covers up all characters anyway, this game is about leveling and getting better gear.
Binding WASD in this game is absurd, no offense, you wouldn't get past nightmare difficulty. I'm assuming you have never played D1 and D2 because frankly your post sort of frustrates me. You don't understand what the game is about, so you aren't enjoying it.

If they only let you play it on easy how are people who play games hardcore supposed to enjoy it. Beta isnt JUST a test its also marketing. And if Blizzard is too stupid to realize this well... Activision. They put in hardcore heros but its almost impossible to die... I dont get it. Give us a taste.

I like options. Cuz a lot of devs like making bad UIs. And customization makes a character mean more especially if your going to put any amount of time into it.

Why would WASD be absurd? having to shift click is massively retarded. With WASD I can kite properly without having to move my mouse across the screen between each shot which can be as low a 1sec.

This game just seems like a big grind with no point and no pvp at launch, and they arent even gonna try to balance it either. I dont get why you would want to waste your life on it. I already feel like I wasted my time playing the beta. Seems like Hellgate London with ****ty controls worse graphics and less options. Nothing in the story or quests seem interesting either. Its like streamlined WoW and instead of a talent tree you have glyphs and abilities. I'd still say its better than WoW gameplay wise but it still seems lame. Thats why the gave it away free to wow players, cuz they know this.
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Ploppytheman, you're what, 12? Obviously you never played a Diablo game before in your life. And for those expecting "good graphics", you're at the wrong place because blizz games aren't about something as shallow as that.
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Jep, I have no issue whatsoever with everything being online as long as it's as well made as Blizz does it. It gives me a feeling of certainty, hard to describe.

Mhm. I don't think I've ever been screwed by Blizzard and their practices. One of my favorite devs.
    
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Well you can play the SP and they have a LAN patch that allows you to play StarCraft II Over Hamachi & Tunngle, so yes, they can play the MP, but not on the Official servers, much like most games.
Diablo III though, uses a MMO like protection method, which will require them to create a server emulator, like MMO's, and it will require alot of time and dedication from the scene to get it properly working.
Evne then, they can't play on Official servers, so no point.
And what, you don't take 60$ home a day? You have a degree and experience?
I dropped out of highschool and got my GED and I make 13$ an hour as a mail handler at the post office.
Jobs like yours will surely pay off alot in the future, but I'd suggest moving to a better state with more tech oriented jobs.
IT feels insulting to me that I'm making more money than someone who has a degree. tongue.gif

Lots of people don't take home $60 a day. You probably don't either unless you walk to work and don't eat.

Take home $ = after tax and daily expenses lol.

Your post was pretty mean frown.gif
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