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post #31 of 85
4/19/12 at 11:55pm
Let me clear some things up...
H60/80/100 use glycol as liquid coolant. No need to worry about it freezing...At least not on regular frozen water -ice-
If you were to put the rad inside some acetone and dry ice mix, then you'd get really cold temps! -doubt it would freeze still cause of the heatload that is pumping from the cpu constantly-

-Mini-fridges never work, never will, cause they use smallish tecs/peltiers and they can't cool an active heatload, only stuff at ambient temps -and rather slowly-
-Same thing for fridges, they just don't have the muscle to be on all the time and cool and active heat source, they just cool stuff down to a certain temp and hold it there by kicking in the compressor when needed.

(Only thing powerful enough for it to work is either, Dry ice, Window AC unit evaporator inside a water reservoir -with thermistor removed-...)

Edit: almost forgot! Good luck and remember...
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if u let this sit to long, couldnt it freeze the liquid inside, causes expansion thus breaking a seal causing a leak?

Impossible.
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i know it wont freeze while the machine is running, im saying, ok ice worked, time to put it in the freezer/cooler forman grill filled with ice, ectera filled with ice, and then you leave it in for to long/over night and it could happen, im not trying to poop on anyones party, i just hate to see damaged goods

Nope, won't freeze. Normally Freezers go to -10 to -15. No point in getting it any colder. That and as soon as you would apply load, the compressor in the freezer would work too hard and could brun out.
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BTW im pretty sure the hydro coolers have anti freeze in them from what i heard

Yup, Propylene Glycol.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Let me clear some things up...
H60/80/100 use glycol as liquid coolant. No need to worry about it freezing...At least not on regular frozen water -ice-
If you were to put the rad inside some acetone and dry ice mix, then you'd get really cold temps! -doubt it would freeze still cause of the heatload that is pumping from the cpu constantly-
-Mini-fridges never work, never will, cause they use smallish tecs/peltiers and they can't cool an active heatload, only stuff at ambient temps -and rather slowly-
-Same thing for fridges, they just don't have the muscle to be on all the time and cool and active heat source, they just cool stuff down to a certain temp and hold it there by kicking in the compressor when needed.
(Only thing powerful enough for it to work is either, Dry ice, Window AC unit evaporator inside a water reservoir -with thermistor removed-...)
Edit: almost forgot! Good luck and remember...
poke.gif We want pics!

This.

Pretty sure they use propylene glycol in there. For one they need it with anti-corrosives as the block is copper and the rad aluminium. I'd be willing to bet you can bring that down to -15 before it starts to turn into jelly like substance. Some Kanukians have done this with the hydro series cooler and put them outdoors where it easily reaches -20c. The units worked perfectly.

What I would be worried about is condensation on the copper block and the CPU.

Other than that, it's a great budget idea for benching. thumb.gif
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4/20/12 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Let me clear some things up...
H60/80/100 use glycol as liquid coolant. No need to worry about it freezing...At least not on regular frozen water -ice-
If you were to put the rad inside some acetone and dry ice mix, then you'd get really cold temps! -doubt it would freeze still cause of the heatload that is pumping from the cpu constantly-

-Mini-fridges never work, never will, cause they use smallish tecs/peltiers and they can't cool an active heatload, only stuff at ambient temps -and rather slowly-
-Same thing for fridges, they just don't have the muscle to be on all the time and cool and active heat source, they just cool stuff down to a certain temp and hold it there by kicking in the compressor when needed.

(Only thing powerful enough for it to work is either, Dry ice, Window AC unit evaporator inside a water reservoir -with thermistor removed-...)

Edit: almost forgot! Good luck and remember...
poke.gif We want pics!

Pic's will be coming along.. thumb.gif Great info Ivanlabrie!!! Thanks thumb.gif
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if u let this sit to long, couldnt it freeze the liquid inside, causes expansion thus breaking a seal causing a leak?
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Impossible.
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i know it wont freeze while the machine is running, im saying, ok ice worked, time to put it in the freezer/cooler forman grill filled with ice, ectera filled with ice, and then you leave it in for to long/over night and it could happen, im not trying to poop on anyones party, i just hate to see damaged goods

Nope, won't freeze. Normally Freezers go to -10 to -15. No point in getting it any colder. That and as soon as you would apply load, the compressor in the freezer would work too hard and could brun out.
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Originally Posted by MaxFTW View Post

BTW im pretty sure the hydro coolers have anti freeze in them from what i heard

Yup, Propylene Glycol.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Let me clear some things up...
H60/80/100 use glycol as liquid coolant. No need to worry about it freezing...At least not on regular frozen water -ice-
If you were to put the rad inside some acetone and dry ice mix, then you'd get really cold temps! -doubt it would freeze still cause of the heatload that is pumping from the cpu constantly-
-Mini-fridges never work, never will, cause they use smallish tecs/peltiers and they can't cool an active heatload, only stuff at ambient temps -and rather slowly-
-Same thing for fridges, they just don't have the muscle to be on all the time and cool and active heat source, they just cool stuff down to a certain temp and hold it there by kicking in the compressor when needed.
(Only thing powerful enough for it to work is either, Dry ice, Window AC unit evaporator inside a water reservoir -with thermistor removed-...)
Edit: almost forgot! Good luck and remember...
poke.gif We want pics!

This.

Pretty sure they use propylene glycol in there. For one they need it with anti-corrosives as the block is copper and the rad aluminium. I'd be willing to bet you can bring that down to -15 before it starts to turn into jelly like substance. Some Kanukians have done this with the hydro series cooler and put them outdoors where it easily reaches -20c. The units worked perfectly.

What I would be worried about is condensation on the copper block and the CPU.

Other than that, it's a great budget idea for benching. thumb.gif

Well noted about that condesation!!! thumb.gif More Great Info!!! Thank You sir.. I'm glad all you guy's kind of cleared that up.
Just wanna get, as you say Rognin; (' Great budget Idea for benching, Oc'ing, what ever!!!) thumb.gif To get a good chill on my PC with out destroying HDD's, Mobo's, GPU's, PSU's what ever... thumb.gif The Experiment is about seeing were I can bring this CPU using an H80 sitting on 'ICE' & under the conditions I set it in.... and of course; Having Fun doing it!!! thumb.gif
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4/20/12 at 11:13am
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So here is the material I will using to achieve some good O.C's on my CPU & to bring my H80 to very low temps.... thumb.gif
My Rig!!! No Jokes Please.... rolleyes.gif She's under construction.... biggrin.gif
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The material I'll be using!!! thumb.gif
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The material I'll be using to keep her dry..... redface.gif
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I hope I can at least reach the temps and the clocks I hit when I tested on how I was going to thread this crazy experiment!!!! wheee.gif
Oh Yeah, this is my normal O.C at Idle & Load; what I keep for working, Gaming, Ect.....
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post #35 of 85
4/20/12 at 1:59pm
You want to make sure you insulate the socket area with kneaded eraser and put towels on the tubing.
AND, I think I'd give it a try with regular ice first -frozen water- and then try a run with Dry ice -solid carbon dioxide...-78c-
I'm not sure if it would be as effective as a direct dry ice pot approach, so I doubt it'll freeze the coolant inside the H80.
I'll be giving this a try with my Celeron d 331 too. Nice idea! thumb.gif
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post #36 of 85
4/20/12 at 8:14pm
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You want to make sure you insulate the socket area with kneaded eraser and put towels on the tubing.
AND, I think I'd give it a try with regular ice first -frozen water- and then try a run with Dry ice -solid carbon dioxide...-78c-
I'm not sure if it would be as effective as a direct dry ice pot approach, so I doubt it'll freeze the coolant inside the H80.
I'll be giving this a try with my Celeron d 331 too. Nice idea! thumb.gif

Hey Ivanlabrie; Thanks for the 'TIPS' sir.. It's well appreciated in all aspect's. Yeah 'DRY ICE'; that's a little out of my field.. rolleyes.gif
I'm just staying with regular 'ICE'!!!! biggrin.gif

Also, Ivan??? I'm placing your post up front as a quick explanation
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Let me clear some things up...
H60/80/100 use glycol as liquid coolant. No need to worry about it freezing...At least not on regular frozen water -ice-
If you were to put the rad inside some acetone and dry ice mix, then you'd get really cold temps! -doubt it would freeze still cause of the heatload that is pumping from the cpu constantly-
-Mini-fridges never work, never will, cause they use smallish tecs/peltiers and they can't cool an active heatload, only stuff at ambient temps -and rather slowly-
-Same thing for fridges, they just don't have the muscle to be on all the time and cool and active heat source, they just cool stuff down to a certain temp and hold it there by kicking in the compressor when needed.

(Only thing powerful enough for it to work is either, Dry ice, Window AC unit evaporator inside a water reservoir -with thermistor removed-...)

Edit: almost forgot! Good luck and remember...
poke.gif We want pics!

Great explanation of the H80 & on thermal cooling... thumb.gif
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post #37 of 85
4/20/12 at 8:22pm
No prob!

I'm buying an H50 now cause of your idea...I was about to build a dry ice pot, but it'd be quite expensive and hard.
I have this Celeron 331 that I want to get to 6ghz.
That'll do the trick I guess...

Keep us posted with your results man!
Good luck and happy benching biggrin.gif
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4/20/12 at 8:24pm
Are you on drugs?
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4/20/12 at 8:26pm
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Are you on drugs?

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4/20/12 at 8:37pm
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No prob!

I'm buying an H50 now cause of your idea...I was about to build a dry ice pot, but it'd be quite expensive and hard.
I have this Celeron 331 that I want to get to 6ghz.
That'll do the trick I guess...

Keep us posted with your results man!
Good luck and happy benching biggrin.gif

Cool Deal.. That will do the trick.. thumb.gif Yeah, a friend of mine here thought I was nuts for doing this!!! blushsmiley.gif
But all of a sudden out of no were, he call's me last night & tells me (" Ron man!!! What made you think of this? You should see my temp's dropping... rolleyes.gif LOL,, I was like,,??? OK!! rolleyes.gif I'm Nut's!!! LOL lachen.gif
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Are you on drugs?

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