Originally Posted by Huff
The UPE material is actually the Teflon material used previously, Steelseries had to change the name since DuPont owns the rights to the Teflon name. I've had the Xai,
Sensei and Kinzu V2 Pro, from what I can remember they all used the same material for the mouse feet.
The Artisan Hayate glides a lot faster than the QcK pads, I would say that the Hayate is a QcK on steroids. I've never used the Hayabusa so I can't comment on that.
Haha, QcK on steroids, now that is my kind of thing.
I want a fast glide(which wont be inconsistent), and the Hayate is just about right from what I can tell. Though I'm interested on the Hayabusa after hearing that it's more like controlled version of the Hayate(slower) yet easier to stop
which is the most important thing for me. If the Hayate is too fast for my liking, then it would be big waste of money and I don't want that, I'm broke atm.
Originally Posted by SIDWULF
Hey man, I hear you have the NP+?
Well if your sweating then that is the mat for you, it does not soak up moister like the QKC Heavy does. Man i hate my Heavy, it's so slow and mushy compared to the NP+ and the compressed fibers.
Also the mice im not sure which ones have flawless sensors, aka no acceleration or prediction. I know the Zowie AM has a flawless sensor and custom lens.
I had the NP+ for a while, and yeah it's a very good pad and lives up to its name: I even tested it by dropping a glass of water, just forms a puddle on the surface and doesn't get wet. But I don't like the rough texture, my wrist gets scratched after some fast swipes.
...and you are right about the Heavy, seems it was a mistake. The heavy definitely feels slower, mushy is the word to be exact but feels nice though. I could have sworn my QcK+/SK Gaming were faster than the Heavy given the same circumstances.
Originally Posted by Skylit
UPE isnt teflon. Just marketing on Steelseries part.
The actual glides between the Xai/Sensei and Kinzu v2 pro come from different sources.
Thanks Skylit, I was worried about this. Is this new material on the Kinzu V2 Pro
comparable to the skates that comes with the XAi/Sensei as default? Will it scratch up a mouse pad, say a new Hayate/Hayabusa/SK gaming?
and can you tell me if I should order this: http://shop.steelseries.com/en/accessories/steelseries-glide-kinzu.html
The glide Kinzu is just like the original XAi/Sensei's skates, but just smaller right? Or is it the same which comes with the original Kinzu V1(which is horrible). Please shed some light on this, if I order from the SS shop, I'll most likely order the feet together, that is if I get the Kinzu V2 Pro.
Thanks Skylit, I've been following your posts for a very long time, and have learnt a lot. Thanks man.
Originally Posted by resis
Look into SteelSeries 5L
. I have no experience with it, but it is like a plastic pad with a cloth like surface. Ask others if they can tell you the specifics.
Well, AM (GS) is great if you're coming from the XAI, but you will probably dislike the narrow design and the stiff switches. And you'd need to get used to either lower or higher CPI (no 1800dpi, only 1150 and 2300dpi). But the sensor performance is said to be really good. Very good feet also (though some say large feet are a disadvantage).
I like my AM, but ordered the EC eVo (both versions, gotta test). It is the same great sensor as the AM, but better switches. EC1 eVo is close to a Deathadder in shape, which you will probably dislike, but the EC2 eVo is smaller and might be something to look at.
Sensor performance wise, Deathadder, Zowie and G400 is probably the best you can get.
Thanks man for the reply.
I seriosly love the glossy coating of my XAi R.U.S.E, it helps with the sweat. The rubber coating from the original DA/DA:BE were just horrible for my hands. It was always a mess, after a few session but not with my current XAi. So I prefer a glossy mouse, even if it's some quirks overall(have to compromise somewhere).
I'm looking at the GS now, as it does boast glossy sides atleast. I had the MX, sensor was pretty nice but the shape was just not meant for me, too big. Now that you say about the EC2 eVo, I'll have to give it more thought. Same sensor as the AM, so in theory it should perform similar right? And what about the shape, is it smaller than the XAi/AM, comparable to the Kana atleast and light weight?
Oh, and I didn't really like the 5L. I tried it a few years back at a shop. I always go back to the QcK series for some reason.
Sorry for all the questions, hope you don't mind.
Originally Posted by S.M.
Kinzu is too small and forces a claw crip, probably something you wouldn't like coming from two large heavy palm mice.
The Zowie AM is probably the best mouse on the market for literally everyone, size, grip, performance, ambidextrous, perfect weight. However, I think the GS is terrible, glossy mice suck.
The Kana is the wildcard. I haven't yet used one, but I can tell I wouldn't like the side buttons.
Haha, but I like glossy mice, to each his own.
The AM is perfect for my needs, after all the only FPS I play CSS/1.6, and a big part of me is dedicated to these games. But I want a smaller footprint, like the G9x/Kinzu/Salmosa, I've pretty small hands.
Originally Posted by toaad
I;d fully recommend the Logitech MX518, optical (meaning no problems with dust messing up the sensor, therefore your aim) and low DPI.
I've tried Razer DA, Steelseries Xai, MS Intellimouse 3.0, G400 and others, they're not in the same league as the MX518.
Thanks buddy for your opinion. If I am right, the WMO 1.1 is just shaped just like the XAi, but has a decent sensor even if it's only 400DPI? I can play at that DPI, no problem but what about the shape? Are there any glossy version available?
Thank you everyone for taking the time to write these replies for my cause. Rep+ to you guys. Edited by dipanzan - 4/22/12 at 11:30am