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post #91 of 108
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Don't worry, it's their mistake.
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AMD plan to conclude driver updates for pre-Evergreen, and even pre-Radeon HD 2000, HD 3000, HD 4000 and HD 5000 series GPUs, starting this summer. The change should go into effect with the Catalyst 12.7 drivers which should pop up sometime in July.
Owners of these older GPUs would then have to use the latest driver made available to them, Catalyst 12.6, to run their older DirectX 10/10.1 GPUs. The culling of these pre-Evergreen GPUs from AMD's Catalyst driver package is a bit strange, but most likely a push for users to upgrade their ageing GPUs.
Thanks: NEWS SOURCE #1 <- Link to orig. source.
Evergreen is the 5000 series, so Pre-Evergreen is everything before it ...but not it too. Tweaktown Australia just goofed, it isn't in their source.
Had me worried for a bit though.

Ok good. Thanks for clearing that up.

It's hard to swallow that they're dropping support for DX10 parts, but for them to drop support for DX11 parts that haven't even been on the market for 3 years yet would be a form of corporate suicide for them.
post #92 of 108
AMD/ATI support for Linux was bad anyway...

hopefully they'll improve that now that they can focus on 5xxx 6xxx 7xxx
post #93 of 108
I didn't realize how old AMD thought my 4870 actually was.
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post #94 of 108
Lots of aspergers syndrome idiocy in this thread over linux catalyst drivers. By people that don't even use Linux. This does not affect Windows. Further, the linux catalyst is open source IIRC.

Linux only.
post #95 of 108
Meh,

Last year I used my 128MB Radeon 9250 PCI on windows 7 and it ran fine. Legacy support doesn't mean your card will just stop working.

The only people who should worry is Linux users, and even on this forum that accounts to what, 5%? (sorry Linux users but you're pretty scarce)

Also, Windows support isn't explicitly dropped, the author just speculates that it will be soon.
    
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post #96 of 108
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Further, the linux catalyst is open source IIRC.

Nope.
    
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post #97 of 108
Yeah it would not make sense to drop 5000 series as some of the 6000 is just renamed 5000, for example 5770 vs 6770. I have flashed in fact my 5770 with 6770 bios and the card works and behaves exactly like 6770.

As far as 4870 performance goes its still descent. Approx 10% better than 5770/6770 and thus only a bit behind 7770. There are almost no games that would be only dx 11 without dx 9 support.
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official statement from AMD, copied from anandtech:
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AMD will be moving the AMD Radeon™ HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series of products to a new driver support model. We will continue to support the mentioned products in our Catalyst releases, but we’re moving their updates to a quarterly basis, whereas our AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later products will continue to see monthly updates. The Quarterly Catalyst releases will focus on resolving application specific issues and critical updates. The reason for the shift in support policy is largely due to the fact that the AMD Radeon HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series have been optimized to their maximum potential from a performance and feature perspective. The 8.97 based driver, released in May 2012 will be the first driver for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series under the new support model; it is an extremely stable and robust driver branch for these products and will be the baseline for our quarterly updates.

Our main development and testing efforts will now be focused on the AMD Radeon™ HD 5000 and later products. This is the best use of our resources, as the AMD Radeon HD 5000, AMD Radeon HD 6000, AMD Radeon HD 7000, and future products have the greatest potential for further performance and feature enhancements.

Also with regards to Windows 8 support for the AMD Radeon™ HD 2000, 3000, 4000 Series of products; the In-the-box AMD Graphics driver that ships with Windows 8 will include support for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, 3000, and 4000 Series, and it will support the WDDM 1.1 driver level features. The AMD Catalyst driver for Windows 8 will only include support for WDDM 1.2 support products (AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later).

2000-4000 will still be supported. OP is false.
post #99 of 108
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official statement from AMD, copied from anandtech:
2000-4000 will still be supported. OP is false.

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post #100 of 108
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

official statement from AMD, copied from anandtech:
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AMD will be moving the AMD Radeon™ HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series of products to a new driver support model. We will continue to support the mentioned products in our Catalyst releases, but we’re moving their updates to a quarterly basis, whereas our AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later products will continue to see monthly updates. The Quarterly Catalyst releases will focus on resolving application specific issues and critical updates. The reason for the shift in support policy is largely due to the fact that the AMD Radeon HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series have been optimized to their maximum potential from a performance and feature perspective. The 8.97 based driver, released in May 2012 will be the first driver for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series under the new support model; it is an extremely stable and robust driver branch for these products and will be the baseline for our quarterly updates.

Our main development and testing efforts will now be focused on the AMD Radeon™ HD 5000 and later products. This is the best use of our resources, as the AMD Radeon HD 5000, AMD Radeon HD 6000, AMD Radeon HD 7000, and future products have the greatest potential for further performance and feature enhancements.

Also with regards to Windows 8 support for the AMD Radeon™ HD 2000, 3000, 4000 Series of products; the In-the-box AMD Graphics driver that ships with Windows 8 will include support for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, 3000, and 4000 Series, and it will support the WDDM 1.1 driver level features. The AMD Catalyst driver for Windows 8 will only include support for WDDM 1.2 support products (AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later).

2000-4000 will still be supported. OP is false.

TL;DR: 2k-4k will recieve quarterly updates, but will only be focusing on critical bugs.
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