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This.

Someone else on this planet who's seen blue gender? Impossibru.

I build computers for my family. If one of them needs one made after the release, I'm going to have to use it and engrave "The Piledriver" on the side of their case.
Edited by VanGosroth - 4/21/12 at 12:05am
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Someone else on this planet who's seen blue gender? Impossibru.
I build computers for my family. If one of them needs one made after the release, I'm going to have to use it and engrave "The Piledriver" on the side of their case.

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As a former AMD man, I can safely say AMD are well and truly outclassed.

Bulldozer was a joke, worse performance then previous gen and ridiculous power consumption on overclocks. Intel are just lightyears ahead on their CPU's and have been for almost a decade. The last respectable processor from AMD was the Phenom II series, which still happens to be their most useable processors, despite them being 3 years old. Intel is also completely alone in the enthusiast market, so really its a no brainer. AMD make huge losses every quarter and unless they actually manage to bring a competitive product with piledriver, its all over for them. Having used both companies for many years, I can safely say Intel are just hands down better. I've no reason to believe AMD can best them.
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Its possible, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Intel is suuuuper far ahead of AMD right now.
But stranger things have happened...like intel becoming faster than AMD several years ago.
Few people saw that coming.
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some people were saying the same thing for Bulldozer vs Sandy Bridge.
ignore them until actual info comes out.

Best advice you can give nothing usualy lives up to the hype.
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As a former AMD man, I can safely say AMD are well and truly outclassed.
Bulldozer was a joke, worse performance then previous gen and ridiculous power consumption on overclocks. Intel are just lightyears ahead on their CPU's and have been for almost a decade. The last respectable processor from AMD was the Phenom II series, which still happens to be their most useable processors, despite them being 3 years old. Intel is also completely alone in the enthusiast market, so really its a no brainer. AMD make huge losses every quarter and unless they actually manage to bring a competitive product with piledriver, its all over for them. Having used both companies for many years, I can safely say Intel are just hands down better. I've no reason to believe AMD can best them.

The only thing Intel are "light years ahead" with is their imc, that's about it. Looking at it from a strictly architectural view, the Bulldozer architecture is light years ahead of Intel and current software for that matter. Sure it has lower than planned IPC and high power consumption which was due to fab faults, but the architecture itself is quite advanced. Considering that Ivy is hardly an improvement over Sandy Bridge, Piledriver may close the gap. Time will tell. At least if Piledriver can compete with Sandy Bridge, then we won't see another Ivy from Intel next time. It would be a win-win for us the consumers.
Edited by computerparts - 4/21/12 at 1:19pm
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I'm using the term broadly. The problem with AMD's Bulldozer, is they're trying to predict the future, Intel are designing for the moment, hence why their arc's always outperform AMD. As a company that has shareholders and a need to generate revenure, I would really like to see the guy who thought Bulldozer was a good idea. AMD need to fall back to the price to performance ratio, although I think that might be pretty hard considering Intel can offer the I5's at very competitive price, and they have oodles of performance over anything AMD can answer with.

We never expected huge gains from Ivy as its just the jump to a smaller lithography. Haswell I expect will bring another SB like success.

And on another line, Intel CPU's were always unattractive to me becuase of not only their cost, but the price of motherboards, thats changed with SB/IB, and theres really no reason to go back to AMD as an enuthusiast.
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I'd buy it for the name alone
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Whatever, doesn't matter either way...

One SB-E to rule them all!!! biggrin.gif
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The only thing Intel are "light years ahead" with is their imc, that's about it. Looking at it from a strictly architectural view, the Bulldozer architecture is light years ahead of Intel and current software for that matter. Sure it has lower than planned IPC and high power consumption which was due to fab faults, but the architecture itself is quite advanced. Considering that Ivy is hardly an improvement over Sandy Bridge, Piledriver may close the gap. Time will tell. At least if Piledriver can compete with Sandy Bridge, then we won't see another Ivy from Intel next time. It would be a win-win for us the consumers.

This is the same argument that AMD made when quads first came out. "But our chips are REAL quad-core architecture, Intel's is just two dual-core's taped together!".

The fact is, nobody cares unless you put your performance where your mouth is. Those duct-taped dual core's soundly trounced their "real" quads, and since no one buys a chip to admire the technical documentation, it didn't matter.
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