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IPC on AMD chips is still near Core 2 Quad levels so while I expect PD to be a big improvement (it better be) I doubt it catches Ivy Bridge.

I also fail to see how AMD's architecture is anymore impressive then SB. Intel's fabs are the most advanced CPU production facilities in the world. No one with a brain argues this. No one is faster at putting out process nodes and no one is better. BD is really not that impressive at all compared to what Intel puts out. I think the only reason people even throw this around is because it contains 8 integer cores like Intel couldn't do the same thing if they wanted. On Ivy the GPU takes up more space then the actual CPU cores do. That alone makes the architecture extremely impressive considering it absolutely decimated bulldozer in a much smaller area.
    
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IPC on AMD chips is still near Core 2 Quad levels so while I expect PD to be a big improvement (it better be) I doubt it catches Ivy Bridge.
I also fail to see how AMD's architecture is anymore impressive then SB. Intel's fabs are the most advanced CPU production facilities in the world. No one with a brain argues this. No one is faster at putting out process nodes and no one is better. BD is really not that impressive at all compared to what Intel puts out. I think the only reason people even throw this around is because it contains 8 integer cores like Intel couldn't do the same thing if they wanted. On Ivy the GPU takes up more space then the actual CPU cores do. That alone makes the architecture extremely impressive considering it absolutely decimated bulldozer in a much smaller area.

Intel does have some 8 core xeons not real cheap tho but 8 cores and 16ht threads.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E5-2687W.html
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Piledriver already has proven to beat Ivy by a minimum of 200% in all scenarios.
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Piledriver already has proven to beat Ivy by a minimum of 200% in all scenarios.

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Piledriver already has proven to beat Ivy by a minimum of 200% in all scenarios.

But thats just in AMD's dreams what will really happen is it loses to to core 2 duo by 200% AMD's nightmares that always seem to come true joking aside who knows i hope it does do great will force Intel to do better and a real pricing war will happen.
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Don't bother waiting for AMD until steamroller. they have said for steamroller they will concentrate on high IPC processors again.
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I've seen very little on Piledriver but just recently read on the BBC article about the Ivy Bridge launch that Piledriver is supposed to "recycle" it's energy. And that ARM chips is to be supported by Windows 8 which according to the article is going to hurt Intel a whole bunch with a lot more competition. (good for us though) thumb.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17785464
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I've seen very little on Piledriver but just recently read on the BBC article about the Ivy Bridge launch that Piledriver is supposed to "recycle" it's energy. And that ARM chips is to be supported by Windows 8 which according to the article is going to hurt Intel a whole bunch with a lot more competition. (good for us though) thumb.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17785464

Tablet market, yeah.

No ARM CPU will EVER match the power of what Intel can do, so they won't lose any desktop marketshare.
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Oy..I might not would choose either of those chips..We'll see what AMD brings to the table later this year...they might just do something good biggrin.gif There will be some Ivy Bridge results later on today.
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I've seen very little on Piledriver but just recently read on the BBC article about the Ivy Bridge launch that Piledriver is supposed to "recycle" it's energy. And that ARM chips is to be supported by Windows 8 which according to the article is going to hurt Intel a whole bunch with a lot more competition. (good for us though) thumb.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17785464

Tablet market, yeah.

No ARM CPU will EVER match the power of what Intel can do, so they won't lose any desktop marketshare.

I thought ARM already dominated the mobile market? wink.gif
ARM may never be on par with Intels desktop range at the time, but thats not to say they cant compete. I believe their mali CPU is as powerful as a PS3 and their cortex powers the nuts fast Playstation Vita. At the time my PS3 was faster than my Intel PC and cost a fraction of what the PC cost.

It can only be good news if someone other than AMD rattles Intels pram, even if only for lower prices.

The minor point made in the article where it promotes Intels trigate boasting, that even IvyBridge doesnt compare to ARM power consumption, and now with Windows 8 support we might be seeing good things in the future. I dunno about you but I am so bored of ios and android.
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