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hi guys,

i going to be upgrading my rig when piledriver comes out. can anyone tell me if the Asus sabertooth 990fx motherboard is good to use with the piledriver please and will a Asus 7970 be ok to run on them both as well ?

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post #122 of 627
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hi guys,
i going to be upgrading my rig when piledriver comes out. can anyone tell me if the Asus sabertooth 990fx motherboard is good to use with the piledriver please and will a Asus 7970 be ok to run on them both as well ?
thanks smile.gif

I'm sure it will be fine. I'm running the 990 and 8120 now. PD will essentailly be the same thing from what I hear. Maybe a BIOS update...
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hi guys,
i going to be upgrading my rig when piledriver comes out. can anyone tell me if the Asus sabertooth 990fx motherboard is good to use with the piledriver please and will a Asus 7970 be ok to run on them both as well ?
thanks smile.gif

you should be set, piledriver is supposed to be am3+ so like Jolly Roger said should be just a bios update thumb.gif
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Actually, even when the competition is tough, we have pretty much hit the point where additional performance gain is tough (for both Intel and AMD). Moore's law is about to collapse believe it or not.
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That, my friend is cool stuff. Love it. So it almost seems that silicon technology will level off and die, but computing tech overall will begin to rise rapidly in the coming decades....

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I can go on for more, but who ever wrote that website is using outdated information and bashing on Intel single sided. Intel hater I shall say.

Weather its outdated or not is a matter of debate. What is NOT a matter of debate is the fact that Intel has a consistent track record of shady business practices. If calling a company out on on these practices makes them a hater, then does that make YOU a hater for pointing out the few wrinkles in AMDs own practices?

2009 is not far enough in the past for me to trust any company or business again. I left Verizon Wireless in 08 because of their chity business practices. Four years later, (and several class action suits later), they're still up to the same antics that nickeled and dimed me once before. Why should I or anybody believe that Intel is not doing the same thing still?
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It sure wasn't easy to find them, maybe because it is overshadowed by Intel v. AMD lawsuit?

There are likely more, but like I said, unless you are a law student, digging sure isn't easy. Just because it wasn't on the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

These type of speculations and desperate efforts to put the two on the same moral level, are leading me to believe that you have something personal against AMD..... Either that or you just REALLY hate to lose an argument.
Edited by 2advanced - 4/22/12 at 2:18am
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post #126 of 627
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Yes that is what i was getting at, but they only need to release new products that are only a little better because people say "ooooo its better and its new so i must have it now" and they know thats what people are going to say and do. To keep their market going they will need to either keep releasing new products that are only a little better in technology, or they could keep making the same cpu over and over again but somehow make it so it only lasts 2-3 years so when its useless the buyer goes out and buys another one, or they can simply re-brand their old cpu's and i dunno have a 300mhz-400mhz increase which is not hard to do. What your saying is very true but im just putting out there what intel might do once AMD goes tits up and there is nobody for them to compete against.
As Intel's cpu dies get smaller, they will degrade and slow down quicker. As for cpu's only geting slightly better,Intel is already doing this. Amd thew in thier hat in terms of competing with Intel. Intel's "NEW" scheme will probably get worse as amd cannot afford to stay in the cpu market.
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You're forgetting that modern day society is disposable. People buy new cars after reaching 100k miles, and buy new computers every 12 months just because they had to buy a new calendar. Consumer marketed desktop and workstation PC's (pretty much the entire market) make money by selling NEW! technology, not "just as good as the old one" technology. I can turn on the home shopping network right now and watch someone tell me that the laptop they're selling is above the rest because it has "new quad core technology", as they try and play it off as if this hasn't been around for years.
I don't understand why this is speculation, it's already happened before with the Pentium 4. Different circumstances, yes, but the exact same thing. While Intel wasn't a monopoly, and didn't even offer a 64bit processor, they still dominated the market and wasn't even provoked to put out a new microarchitechture until people caught on to Athlon 64's years after their release.
Amd has become so insignificant that Intel doesn't even see them as a minor threat anymore, even if Piledriver is decent,it won't help amd. Bulldoze and the 2500k chior have already ran Amd as a brand through the dirt
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/22/12 at 5:48am
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Weather its outdated or not is a matter of debate. What is NOT a matter of debate is the fact that Intel has a consistent track record of shady business practices. If calling a company out on on these practices makes them a hater, then does that make YOU a hater for pointing out the few wrinkles in AMDs own practices?
2009 is not far enough in the past for me to trust any company or business again. I left Verizon Wireless in 08 because of their chity business practices. Four years later, (and several class action suits later), they're still up to the same antics that nickeled and dimed me once before. Why should I or anybody believe that Intel is not doing the same thing still?
These type of speculations and desperate efforts to put the two on the same moral level, are leading me to believe that you have something personal against AMD..... Either that or you just REALLY hate to lose an argument.

This is something I always see. When ever one comes to defend Intel, one always get called an AMD hater. I simply commented on several things listed on that website, things I believe no longer bears relevance. I admit it was bad of me to call one an Intel hater, so I will retract that statement. Oh, part of that lawsuit settlement was that Intel and AMD share their CPU designs, whatever that means.

I have nothing personal against AMD. I have used several AMD CPUs in the past, during the time where they are the performance king. I am using a AMD GPU right now. In fact, I have a AMD Brisbane 2.1 GHz siting next to me as a file server. As for why I am using an Intel system right now, it is because Intel gets the job done faster as of right now. The day when AMD surpasses Intel I will simply switch platform again, simple as that. I am simply responding to AMD4ME's challenge of digging some lawsuits. Intel are indeeded more "shady", but AMD isn't completely innocent. Believe me, once you get to the very high chain of a corporate there is always a thing or two about shady business. Nothing major if it didn't hit the news, but it is there. Take Veriozn for example, they engaged in shady business as you said. I can assure you that Sprint does it too, at&t does it too, T-Mobile does it too, and so on. Which is why by the way I say spending money based on moral value is meaningless, because if you think of it that way, then you are supporting these shady practices and supporting China's abusive policy 100%. Might as well just buy who gets the job done better.
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I thought this thread was about piledriver?? .... why is everyone talking about intel...... everyone who wants to talk about the "almighty" intel goto the other side and leave us "horrible crappy" AMD users alone
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I thought this thread was about piledriver?? .... why is everyone talking about intel...... everyone who wants to talk about the "almighty" intel goto the other side and leave us "horrible crappy" AMD users alone

Bitter much?! Its because amd is not really worth talking about just now, cause they are bringing nothing to the table atm. When they actaully release piledriver then it will be all the rage but for now amd is doing nothing.
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