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Originally Posted by Heavy MG 
Amd has become so insignificant that Intel doesn't even see them as a minor threat anymore, even if Piledriver is decent,it won't help amd. Bulldoze and the 2500k chior have already ran Amd as a brand through the dirt

I wouldnt go that far. Bulldozer is no competition for Intel which is why you have to spend $230 minimum to overclock an Intel processor more than a few MHz. However, while AMD is in the rear view mirror, theyre not so far back as to not be a threat. Ivy Bridge is looking to only be 5-10% over Sandy Bridge at the most. If Piledriver can squeak out an extra 15-20% performance over Bulldozer, theyll be close enough to be a legit alternative to consumers. Intel will still be the performance king but Intel will be close enough to stir up some good old fashioned competition. And it would close the gap enough that AMD could maybe catch up with its next gen line. But if Piledriver is a flop, AMD is pretty much done cause Intel will be way too far ahead for them to ever catch up.
post #132 of 627
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Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post

//snip//

But if Piledriver is a flop, AMD is pretty much done cause Intel will be way too far ahead for them to ever catch up.

amd is "getting done" every year since 2007?

shouldn't they be medium-well by now? or do you prefere well-done? biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

amd, just doing it for 40 years.
post #133 of 627
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post

As Intel's cpu dies get smaller, they will degrade and slow down quicker. As for cpu's only geting slightly better,Intel is already doing this. Amd thew in thier hat in terms of competing with Intel. Intel's "NEW" scheme will probably get worse as amd cannot afford to stay in the cpu market.

Amd has become so insignificant that Intel doesn't even see them as a minor threat anymore, even if Piledriver is decent,it won't help amd. Bulldoze and the 2500k chior have already ran Amd as a brand through the dirt

Everyone said the exact same thing with Socket A.

EDIT: To he honest, people have said that about everything AMD has ever done.
Edited by S.M. - 4/22/12 at 1:02pm
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Will There be - dual core ? Quad Core ? Hexa Core ? And a Octa Core ? smile.gif
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post #135 of 627
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Will There be - dual core ? Quad Core ? Hexa Core ? And a Octa Core ? smile.gif

Don't we already have that in the consumer market? biggrin.gif
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Take Veriozn for example, they engaged in shady business as you said. I can assure you that Sprint does it too, at&t does it too, T-Mobile does it too, and so on. Which is why by the way I say spending money based on moral value is meaningless, because if you think of it that way, then you are supporting these shady practices and supporting China's abusive policy 100%. Might as well just buy who gets the job done better.

You make some very good points, Trump. For me it comes down to choosing the lesser of all the evils, just like in politics.

Like McLeod, Im very optimistic about piledriver. I think AMD has learned their lesson. I just wish the mass public could understand that you can't believe everything you read or see, and that marketing machines are out there to convince you to buy their products at any (ethical) cost.
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post #137 of 627
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amd is "getting done" every year since 2007?
shouldn't they be medium-well by now? or do you prefere well-done? biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
amd, just doing it for 40 years.

You gotta point. People have been saying AMD is on its death bed for a while now. The first Phenom launch especially. That thing was just atrocious and Intel's Core 2 line just stomped all over it. They answered with Phenom II which was as good as Core 2. But thats where they faltered again. Nehalem came out and put Intel back ahead by a good bit. This is when Bulldozer was supposed to come out as it wouldve competed pretty well with the i7-920. But since it took it 2 more years to come out, Intel essentially had 1 generation up on AMD. Ivy Bridge is AMD's big break since it looks like its a "ho-hum" performing line. If Piledriver comes out of the gate swinging with 15-20% improvements in performance, itll be close enough to IB to be worth something. If it flops though, then theyll be right where they are now and a generation behind Intel especially when they release Haswell next year some time.
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The haters have no clue that AMD actually produced Intel CPUs 40 years ago... yet they hate on AMD and post complete ignorance that has no place in these AMD threads. If you wanna waste energy on hating go post in the Intel threads where hate lives. wink.gif

On topic-

As far as Vishera/Piledriver is concerned I'm expecting it to be a nice performance bump, ~15% over the current FX chips but we'll have to wait and see how it all works out.
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This thread proves S.M. 's signature quote. (Along with hundreds of others I'm sure.) Big talk is easy when your on top. But what the heck do i care? Its a freakin piece of silicon and metal. I can't believe people take this crap personally. (but I do agree that if your just gonna AMD bash then stay the heck away from AMD forums).
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As far as Vishera/Piledriver is concerned I'm expecting it to be a nice performance bump, ~15% over the current FX chips but we'll have to wait and see how it all works out.

There is plenty of reason to be optimistic this time around. All the signs point to AMD being able to put out something worthwhile. Theyve announced a ballpark release date. Wouldnt say a word with Bulldozer. Llano was a big success and gave great performance. Trinity looks to be a great performer as well. Theyve nailed their GPU line and those are tearing it up even though Nvidia looks to have finally answered with the GTX680. Still, AMD is making some great GPU's and have been for a while now. Before, we heard nothing from AMD and all we got were endless "new" Phenom II's coming out every month with a 100 MHz bump in clock speed.
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