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Piledriver isnt a totally new architecture, thatll be Steamroller and that will require a brand new socket. Piledriver is just the 2nd generation of the Bulldozer architecture so they dont need a whole brand new socket. Theyre claiming up to 20% improvements over Zambezi and considering that they didnt claim much of anything with Zambezi over Thuban or Deneb, I gotta take that confidence as a good sign. Steamroller is where there will be a significant change in architecture and will require a new socket to work.

is it known if this will work on am3 boards? that would just be fun... Crosshair 3 and Piledriver biggrin.gif
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oh, can i copy this from ya?

"Unofficial AMD defender. Keeping the faith until Piledriver hits."
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Im not sure Piledriver is going to change your mind seeing as itll probably 10% or so better at best

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Leaked benchmarks of Trinity show 9%ish better Integer performance and barely any FPU performance increase. Search Trinity and you'll find the thread, it was in the news section a few days ago. 10% overall performance is a stretch, I was being generous.

Steamroller is what I'm waiting for. It's pretty clear the Bulldozer architecture is fundamentally flawed.
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So what if its on the same socket? Im glad its gonna be on the same socket so I wont have to buy a brand new motherboard to replace my beloved Sabertooth when Piledriver hits. Im all for backward compatibility as are most consumers which is why Intel made IB backward compatible.

AMD can't ride on backwards compatibility forever without hitting walls imposed by the old design.
I dread the day when AMD inevitably has to switch sockets, because there will likely be a lot of conceited community backlash aimed at them. (For a while now, AMD advocates have used backwards compatibility as an argument point for AMD. When that is thrown out the window, you can be sure that they will receive fire for that.)

Backwards compatibility is nice to a degree, but I think AMD really should move on to a new socket soon.
Edited by sLowEnd - 4/25/12 at 9:22pm
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Leaked benchmarks of Trinity show 9%ish better Integer performance and barely any FPU performance increase. Search Trinity and you'll find the thread, it was in the news section a few days ago. 10% overall performance is a stretch, I was being generous.

Steamroller is what I'm waiting for. It's pretty clear the Bulldozer architecture is fundamentally flawed.

thats like saying llano has bulldozer performance...
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post #266 of 627
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Backwards compatibility is nice to a degree, but I think AMD really should move on to a new socket soon.

Though I'm not so sure if AMD will even consider a new socket. Originally AMD plans to replace C32 and G34 with C2012 and G2012 respectively. Latest slide from AMD analyst day shows that AMD will keep C32 and G34 for Streamroller as well. That alone could implicate that AMD plans to use AM3+ on Streamroller as well.
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they are shrinking the dies on steamroller, but not telling what that means with the socket
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ive heard pildriver wll have a lot lower tdp
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Leaked benchmarks of Trinity show 9%ish better Integer performance and barely any FPU performance increase. Search Trinity and you'll find the thread, it was in the news section a few days ago. 10% overall performance is a stretch, I was being generous.

Steamroller is what I'm waiting for. It's pretty clear the Bulldozer architecture is fundamentally flawed.

thats like saying llano has bulldozer performance...

Umm what? Llano doesn't have Bulldozer cores in it so yeah that'd be a pretty dumb thing to say.

But Trinity has 2 Piledriver modules in it. Explain to me how it's unreasonable to assume Trinity's CPU performance won't be indicative of what we'll be seeing in a few months?
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I'm interested in the 'resonant clock mesh' that AMD is supposedly going to use in Piledriver. Should be interesting.
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