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Waiting for Vishera. I really hope that it will be able to complete big-advs and not consume a month's worth of power in a week.
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Waiting for Vishera. I really hope that it will be able to complete big-advs and not consume a month's worth of power in a week.

big-adv has long changed its requirement to 16-core CPU. Even then Piledriver won't work well due to half of FPU. Folding is all about FPU.
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Found an interesting link comparing laptop Llano & laptop Trinity (A10-4600M).

"CPU performance 29% UP, GPU performance 56% UP, power consumption 10% DOWN" (deleted performance/power bit here... doesn't make sense as a10-4600m is a 35w part)

By those figures, it looks like at least the laptop flavor is on par with Phenom II CPU performance, but we don't see any benchmarks to back that up. The GPU performance, when crossfired with a 7670M GPU, scores higher than a desktop GTS 450 in 3DMark 11. That's pretty impressive.
Edited by computerdr - 4/26/12 at 9:11am
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since it is lined up with Phenom II CPU's, not Athlon II, they do not perform up to standards as CPU's ...
why, when llano was released, January of 2011, long after the 4/27/11 release of thuban CPU's, would you compare them to Athlon II's?
The point I was making is that Llano is based on Athlon II architecture with a few tweaks, and therefore we can see that it performs slightly faster.

On that note, because Trinity is based on Piledriver architecture, we can also expect it to perform similarly. A quick Google search shows Trinity has no L3 cache, so we can expect a small hit there, but yes, it is fair to say that we can make an inference at Piledriver's performance based on Trinity's performance. wink.gif (instead of being slightly faster like in Llano's case, it will be the opposite... at least, in theory.)

the problem with this logic is assuming that their goal is purely performance. they want efficiency!
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Quote:
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they want efficiency!
Not according to AMD's own slides... or these, or these. But, everyone including AMD knows that it needs to improve, so maybe they'll surprise us. thumb.gif
Edited by computerdr - 4/26/12 at 12:17pm
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all that those said is that they want performance, which i said they do, but also effiiciency, your evidence is pointless
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i want performance and low power usage.
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Quote:
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all that those said is that they want performance, which i said they do, but also effiiciency, your evidence is pointless
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i want performance and low power usage.

In that case we're all in agreement! cheers.gif
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SO a quick TLDR question here.......

The Trinity mobile CPU is showing 9% performance increase of WHICH bulldozer CPU?

The Trinity CPU only has TWO modules someone said?

Sounds like good news then....as someone said, being a mobile CPU, Trinity is likely underclocked and undervolted -- not entirely indicative of how a DESKTOP CPU might perform.

As for power consumption, that's not so important to me just yet. I have no problem with Piledriver pulling massive amounts of power, IF IT ACTUALLY USES THAT POWER FOR PERFORMANCE. Clearly BD must have some major leakage issues or something. If PD pulls the same amount of power and uses it much more efficiently I'll be happy with that.
    
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So far, I haven't seen any direct comparison between Trinity mobile A10-4600M (which uses two Piledriver modules stripped of L3 cache) and desktop Bulldozer. The comparisons I've seen on the laptop end so far have all been comparing Llano mobile to Trinity mobile, which appears to be looking good (over 25% CPU performance increase with Trinity).

Trinity on both laptop and desktop will use one module (two cores) for the low-end and two modules (four cores) for the higher end. Or at least that's what we can expect: a dual-core and a quad-core for different price points.

Trinity on the desktop, on the other hand, has been compared to desktop Bulldozer here, but keep in mind that Trinity has no L3 cache and will certainly be slower to some extent than the Piledriver-only, L3 cached CPU Vishera scheduled for Q3.
Edited by computerdr - 4/26/12 at 1:13pm
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