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AMD also promised that the FX-8150 would be a true performer lachen.gif

must be why cray just end-of-lifed their xeon supercomputers and now offer bulldozers top-down their product line.

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It is depending on what you're running.

every day stuff

my 1090T simply runs circles around my FX-8150

each cpu overclocked to run stable at its maximum temperature with same cooling system

its sorta like running 12 half coars


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you should OC your 8150.... I had a 1090t and sold it to buy my 8150 and was HUGELY let down... but then I OC'd it to 4.7 and now it runs faster than my 1090t biggrin.gif
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My gut feeling is that Piledriver will be a very nice increase over Bulldozer and will put AMD heading in the right direction. I dont foresee an Intel killer but I do see them getting close enough to be fairly competitive. But that will depend solely on their pricing. If they drop the 8350 at $300+ then theyre screwed as the i7 is sure to outperform it and cost the same. Now they drop it in the market at $200-215 and itll be cheaper than the 3750K by $15-20 and if it can come within 10% of a 3570's performance, which I dont think is unrealistic, then we've got something we havent had since Sandy Bridge hit and thats a competitive CPU market.
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must be why cray just end-of-lifed their xeon supercomputers and now offer bulldozers top-down their product line.
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No one questions that Bulldozer is a good server architecture. Server workloads are exactly the type of stuff that Bulldozer plows through and snorts at. It's the performance under mainstream applications that's the issue.
     
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With current bulldozer arch (in the case of the FX 8150), both scaling and single core performance are lacking when compared to older phenom II processors, with only a max clock advantage. At least AMD has made up for one of these pitfalls. We will see just how much scaling increases with the newer architecture when official benchmark reviews are out tomorrow! I am guessing only ~5% or so. Overclockability will also increase roughly 5% when compared to the FX 8150. 
 
Phenom II X4 4C/4T - 3.96 x Scaling , 1.00 single core performance @ 3Ghz, hits 4.3 Ghz
FX Bulldozer 2M/4T - 3.28 x Scaling, 0.75 single core performance @ 3 Ghz, hits 4.9 Ghz
FX Piledriver 2M/4T  - 3.44 x Scaling, 1.06 single core performance @ 3 Ghz, hits 5.1 Ghz
Intel i5 3570k- 4C/4T - 3.56 x Scaling, 1.25 single core performance @ 3 Ghz, hits 4.9 Ghz
 
This of course this is a rough estimate, but you get the idea! 
 
For the 4M/8T FX 8350, I estimate @ 5.1 Ghz it will match Ivy Bridge i5 3570k single core performance @ 4.3 Ghz. But will scale roughly 85% higher when all threads are used. 
 
My cost estimate for the FX 8350 will be ~300 USD. 
 
    
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i might get an am3+ board and just throw my 960t in there until piledriver releases. really dont want to make the switch to intel but i just might have to if piledriver isnt that great heat/power wise. :/
    
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i might get an am3+ board and just throw my 960t in there until piledriver releases. really dont want to make the switch to intel but i just might have to if piledriver isnt that great heat/power wise. :/

Then why not just wait until PD comes out and benchies start to hit the forums? Then, if you like what you see get the mobo+cpu in a combo deal or something. Otherwise, you'd buy an AM3+ mobo with the possibility of having to get a new intel mobo/cpu later?
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I gotta agree. This close to the release, might as well ride out your 960T and current motherboard. You're gonna have to reinstall your OS and all that either way so waiting til we know more about PD could mean you wouldn't have to do it twice.

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If Piledriver can do Sandybridge or similar Single Core performance for less money than Ivybridge CPUs, it's gonna be huge for AMD. TDP will come down then overclocking will mean more. I believe if Piledriver can clock as high as Bulldozer, IvyBridge might be in trouble. As long as they put them between sandy and ivy price-wise.
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