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as Trinity is a scaled down verrion of Piledriver it would stand to reason its going to be good the frist piledriver are comming out for testing next mo
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Bulldozer was really delayed. But I think AMD hadn't quite got it right before they released it. I personally THINK that AMD released Bulldozer before it was ready to stop people from grumbling about the delays. I think they decided to live with the loss and to just perfect the architecture for the next gen. Cause that gave them about a year to refocus their efforts. Just me thinking out loud here.
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Awe man I can't wait for Piledriver. Looks like it was a good idea to save and buy an Athlon 2 quad and wait to pop a Piledriver based processor into my MSI 990FXA GD-65! Any body have any Ideam how much a Piledriver based quad core will cost?

When the bulldozer 8150 first came out it was $320 shipped and now its $199 shipped

$320 might be a good guess for the piledriver 8350

    
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Awe man I can't wait for Piledriver. Looks like it was a good idea to save and buy an Athlon 2 quad and wait to pop a Piledriver based processor into my MSI 990FXA GD-65! Any body have any Ideam how much a Piledriver based quad core will cost?
When the bulldozer 8150 first came out it was $320 shipped and now its $199 shipped
$320 might be a good guess for the piledriver 8350
No but that's for the eight core Piledriver. I'm talking about the four core. I think it's the FX-43XX?
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No but that's for the eight core Piledriver. I'm talking about the four core. I think it's the FX-43XX?
The fx 4100's release price was only $115. It'll probably be closer to the fx 4170's release price of $145 though.
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Does anyone know when we can expect the first tests, benchmarks and so on. Is that right when it gets released or is there something like 'review sites' getting a chip earlier?
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I hope they can beat or at least perform similarly to Intels' current CPU's this time.
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I hope they can beat or at least perform similarly to Intels' current CPU's this time.
No there isn't going to be any Intel ass kicking goodness. Unless it can beat an I5 which it will probably be competing with on a price scale. But there will be no I7 slayer chip anytime soon.
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No there isn't going to be any Intel ass kicking goodness. Unless it can beat an I5 which it will probably be competing with on a price scale. But there will be no I7 slayer chip anytime soon.
Because AMD pretty much gave up trying to compete with Intel. I wouldn't expect Piledriver to be any more than 10% faster than BD.
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Bulldozer was really delayed. But I think AMD hadn't quite got it right before they released it. I personally THINK that AMD released Bulldozer before it was ready to stop people from grumbling about the delays. I think they decided to live with the loss and to just perfect the architecture for the next gen. Cause that gave them about a year to refocus their efforts. Just me thinking out loud here.

I think it's pretty obvious that's what they did. AMD was under pressure to release their next-generation architecture, so they introduced several design compromises that helped them get it out the door faster. That's why it has an IPC that so poor, and consumes so much power. Intel really did the same thing with the Pentium 4 when it first came out; the original P4 and Bulldozer have so much in common that it's scary. They lopped off design elements and cache just so they could produce it, and even thought it needed a ridiculous overclock to be competitive. But within a year, they had a competitive second-generation version.

We can deduce, from benchmarking the A10's, that Piledriver seems to be performing slightly better than Phenom II cores at the same clock rate. That makes them 10-15 percent better than Bulldozer, like AMD said it would. If it comes out at 4 GHz, like is being predicted, and overclocks to 5, it's a competitive part. It won't beat an i7, but it doesn't need to.
     
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