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Will a vishera based FX-8350 make a worthwhile upgrade to a phenom II 965 C3 running @ 4.25GHz on a 990FX board? Or should I wait until SteamRoller?

Depends on what you are doing.

Gaming? Hell no.
Multithreaded tasks? Hell yes.
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You don't need a start menu. Its just habitual. In a couple of years, you wont be using a start menu any more, guaranteed. May as well start now. If you ever jump to another os, you wont find a start menu there either.

There is usually something similar. It doesn't have to have a Windows logo on the button, but the concept of a menu that lists common things you wish to run is pretty important. The new metro-style replacement for that function feels very obtuse. It isn't a matter of it being different so much as it is a matter of it taking longer to perform the same tasks and feel unnecessarily enormous while doing it. I don't need or want a start menu to take up the entirety of a 27" monitor. After trying it for a while, I found myself resorting to using Win+R and just launching everything from Run. That was when I finally conceded that if using run was faster/less fatiguing enough as a user to make it preferable to the new UI, something was seriously wrong with that new UI. I gave up and installed Start8. The system immediately felt nimble to use again which only served to reinforce that conclusion.

This is going to be a personal choice that everyone will have to determine for themselves. My original post was meant half as information to get people to see the product name (Start8) so that they might know there is a solution if they find they don't like the Windows 8 UI. It was also about a quarter me venting and another quarter snarkiness.
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Just bought an FX-8350 for $220 from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&name=Processors-Desktops

I would love to see your OC notes for Vishera. Overclock it, and inform us thumb.gif.
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Depends on what you are doing.
Gaming? Hell no.
Multithreaded tasks? Hell yes.

I was coming over here to ask the same basic question. Nevertheless, I am likely to take the plunge here in a few minutes. I have one multi-threaded app I use here from time to time called AnyDVDHD and associated SlySoft programs. I expect them to run significantly faster. I've yet to encounter any game I can't run at full tilt with what I have now, although that could change with some of the newer games due out soon.

I'm surprised the price is what it is (was expecting higher), and still it will be the first time in a while I will pay this much for an AMD processor. My 965 cost $126 brand new off of EBAY when Newegg was charging over 150. It will be nice to get something like this in a day one order window.
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i just can't take it any more  >>>> going to keep my 1090T

 

Putting It All Together: Five Architectures At 4 GHz

What effect do all of those adjustments have on Piledriver's per-cycle performance? We ran five different architectures at 4 GHz to compare their relative results.

In iTunes, which we know to be single-threaded, the FX-8350 demonstrates significant gains over the Bulldozer-based FX-8150. But a Phenom II X6 1100T operating at the same frequency is still faster. And that's before we look at the Sandy and Ivy Bridge architectures, which jump way out in front of anything from AMD.

    
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Well what that doesn't show you, is that the vishera is operating at stock frequency, and the 1100T is overclocked to 4ghz. 4ghz is about the limit of a 1100T, where as benches have shown vishera up past 5.2ghz. Overclock the vishera to 5Ghz, an increase of 25%, and your see a 25% decrease in those time, bringing the vishera just ahead of the 1100T. Plus the vishera is much better in heavily threaded apps.

It's no secret, If you want single threaded performance, get yourself an intel. An i3 3220 will be faster in single threaded an a 8350, but will **** it's pants when compared to even my 8120, at it's stock clocks, at video rendering.
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Well what that doesn't show you, is that the vishera is operating at stock frequency, and the 1100T is overclocked to 4ghz. 4ghz is about the limit of a 1100T, where as benches have shown vishera up past 5.2ghz. Overclock the vishera to 5Ghz, an increase of 25%, and your see a 25% decrease in those time, bringing the vishera just ahead of the 1100T. Plus the vishera is much better in heavily threaded apps.
It's no secret, If you want single threaded performance, get yourself an intel. An i3 3220 will be faster in single threaded an a 8350, but will **** it's pants when compared to even my 8120, at it's stock clocks, at video rendering.

^this. the 8350 is at stock.
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^this. the 8350 is at stock.

Well, I took the plunge and decided to pay Newegg their $25 "shipping fee". I did a quick scan of a few reviews, nothing really out of the ordinary although most focused on comparing Vishera to Zambezi, which makes sense since these were the latest flagship CPUs from AMD. Hopefully "seat of the pants" performance will be noticeable since I'm upgrading from a 3 yr old technology.

If anyone else here has taken this same step (from Deneb) and can post their observations, would greatly appreciate it. When I get around to installing my 8350 into C5F, I will also update to the latest BIOS and will leave everything stock at the CPU side initially, but will make some of the easier tweaks very quickly like CPU-NB and base CPU Frequency.
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Well, I took the plunge and decided to pay Newegg their $25 "shipping fee". I did a quick scan of a few reviews, nothing really out of the ordinary although most focused on comparing Vishera to Zambezi, which makes sense since these were the latest flagship CPUs from AMD. Hopefully "seat of the pants" performance will be noticeable since I'm upgrading from a 3 yr old technology.
If anyone else here has taken this same step (from Deneb) and can post their observations, would greatly appreciate it. When I get around to installing my 8350 into C5F, I will also update to the latest BIOS and will leave everything stock at the CPU side initially, but will make some of the easier tweaks very quickly like CPU-NB and base CPU Frequency.

Overclocking the NB does very little on the FX chips, or so I read.


I came from a 1055T, and my render times in vegas went down 50%. massive improvment.
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