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I just hope piledriver has both hyper threading and hyper transport

Why?
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Piledriver for APU (Trinity) will be out around May/June.
Piledriver for CPU (Vishera) will be out late (Q4) 2012.
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What do you all think the prices will be for the top 2 Pildriver CPUs?

I would say it'll be around the same as bd
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How much was the 8120 at release?
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How much was the 8120 at release?

Amazon listed it as $230.
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Amazon listed it as $230.

Id be willing to pay that if the Tier 2 Piledriver is a not so well binned Tier 1 Piledriver. Kinda like how the 8120 is to the 8150, or the 1090T to the 1100T.
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Why? You dont know that it will be a flop, and you do realize that once amd stop making desktop cpu's that intel can charge as much as they want for their cpu's which is not a good thing for either of us.

You know that, and I know that, but that dude bought an 1100T and he's mad because it's not as fast as a Sandy, and he seems to have developed a pathological hatred of AMD because of it.

The best thing that can happen is for AMD to always have a competitive part, because otherwise Intel churns out overpriced crap and doesn't bother to release anything better until AMD does. The only reason we got the Core line of CPU's from them at all is because AMD was humiliating them with the Athlon 64 (P4 Emergency Edition, anyone? LOL). And back in the day, they only released the Pentium II because AMD's K6 was beating the crap out of their cache-bottlenecked Pentium MMX, and we got the P4 Northwood only after the Thunderbird stomped the Willamette P4.

The cycle is continuing now. It doesn't look like Ivy Bridge is much if any better than Sandy. But if AMD gets back in the game, Intel will stop sitting on its laurels.
     
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Why?

in order for AMD to stay compeditve with Intel they need a cpu that is on the same level as the I7 it has both treading and thier verrion of hyper transport and the reason BD fell short is becase it was belived that BD would have both and it dosent
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BD didn't really NEED it. Stuff has enough issues with the Bulldozer scheduler in its current form of 8 cores/4 FPU. Not to mention, what benefit could possibly be had from a 4 FPU / 8 core / 16 thread CPU? Scaling nightmare.

Hypertransport and Hyperthreading are two completely different things.
    
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1 as you say a scaling nightmare and thier is no practical reason for 16 thread but what is dose do is to balance put the whole load on one foarm make for pushing higher voltage by balancing the load you get more out of less Intel has proven the tecnoggy so a 4 core with 8 threads is a 8 core and with hyper transporting you get higer frequancys with lower legacys
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