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Not for long. The next gen isn't going to have the umph that this gen had.
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This loosely sums up what I see, the next gen should be a bit further to the right as well as mobile. Tablets incline won't be as sharp definitely but I could easily see them and variations of mobile tech passing consoles in the future.

And you're basing this on what facts? Even current medium-end PC hardware is many orders of magnitude faster than tablets will be in 10 years. Mobile will advance at the same rate that other technologies will because they are governed by the same manufacturing and thermal hurdles -- only in mobile, TDP is even more scrutinized than set-top boxes. Considering handheld manufacturers like HTC are choosing thin designs over power density, you're not likely to see any breakthroughs. I expect the performance to be linear and not balloon.

If consoles are more modest than they where this generation, there is still an order magnitude variance between mobile, console, and PC where consoles will always lean towards PC hardware in terms of raw compute. The chart you posted is baseless speculation.
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Im gonna go ahead and call BS...unless someone want their phone to become an oven its not going to happen. I don't think there is a way to remove enough heat from such tiny device to accomplish graphics at xbox 360 levels.
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Kinda makes sense considering phones are 2 to 3 times more expensive than a console.
    
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Im gonna go ahead and call BS...unless someone want their phone to become an oven its not going to happen. I don't think there is a way to remove enough heat from such tiny device to accomplish graphics at xbox 360 levels.

that's the case with current technology, but who know what future tech can do. i mean who would've known that while we were smashing out 'snake' on our 3310's that we'd have what we have now.
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I see dedicated portable gaming consoles (Nintendo DS, PSP etc.) becoming redundant soon as mobile phones take their place, but I seriously doubt that mobile gaming will replace console gaming in the near future (about 5 years).
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Touch based controls will never match the feel of a controller (or even motion) and those will never match a good mouse and keyboard. Every step down the options become limited further. For phone graphics to be of any use you'd have to connect them to a big monitor or TV in which case you could have just used something else.

Mobile gaming will always be a last resort, for entertainment when nothing else is available.
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With your extremely disappointing Kal-El, right? Heh. nVidia this days... tongue.gif

Before anyone asks, yes, I'm extremely disappointed with nVIDIA. Qualcomm's platform kicked Kal-El in the back while eating less, being cheaper, having half as cores, and using an older tech-based GPU.

All that blabbering, and they have issues to compete with lower range tech.
   
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Vertices/polygons are not a realistic metric. You still need bandwidth, texture & pixel fill rate, ROPS, and shaders to to make the polygons look "real."
Based on compute, the Xbox 360 is 16x faster than the PowerVR SGX545 found in the new iPhone 4S and that's not even considering the CPU and, memory efficiencies, and the 10MB of EDRAM. If they double power every two years, it'll take mobile phones six years to be at the level consoles where seven years ago. Consider this: mobile developers won't invest the same resources in mobile games as they do with console/PC games because of the uncertainty. So in essence, in over half a decade phones will equal consoles of 10 years prior, but you won't get the latest rasterization features such as deferred rendering and tessellation.
There's a lot of other factors, yes, but considering the ten fold improvement in triangles a second, it's likely other areas are much improved also. (Oh, and just fyi, the iPad 2, 3, and iPhone 4S are using the SGX543 not the 545.)

If a controller was available... and you could simply hook up your iPad or iPhone to your HDTV and play games at 1080p, I think developers would be more inclined to make better quality games, and more lengthy games.
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This is as much a statement about how outdated consoles are as it is a statement about advancements in phones. Though it is impressive, touchscreen controls still suck. I sincerely hope they are not the future of gaming. The funny thing is gameboy advance har longer, more sophisticated games.
Edited by perfectblade - 4/21/12 at 2:52am
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Is this Nvidia's response to not winning the contracts for any console graphics? Pitiful lachen.gif
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