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My wife is really wanting to get into photography and maybe even take it further with a business license and taking pictures for people to earn some extra cash. We have not owned a DSLR camera before and we have no idea which is best. Is a Cannon EOS 5D Mark ii overkill? I know at Costco they carry a few of the Rebel line that seem nice and are about 1K for body and lens. Any help is greatly appreciated because as of now we are lost and not sure how much we should be looking to spend. The 5D Mark ii is about 2K for just the body. The 7D is less money but it is not a full frame camera.
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i rec. the canon t2i or even the t3i (the t3i has a flip out lcd but more expensive) just to start out (they are under 1k for kits) and you can resell them once you get good

however, with any dslr, whats important is the lens, you think the body is expensive, wait till you drop 2-3 times that on a good "L" lens (if youre looking into canons)

since youre doing professional shots, invest in a good lens first and foremost, and join some camera forums, not just here on OCN

Also, with taking pictures for money, you have to be good at it, its not just the camera, and you should get a decent flash because the flashes built into cameras arnt gonna be suitable.

short answer, if youre gonna make money with it, no, the mark ii isnt overkill, but look into nikon too and decide for yourself. Dont give into the canon-nikon war and decide for yourself what features you want and the prices.
Edited by mnkeyprince - 4/21/12 at 3:39am
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i rec. the canon t2i or even the t3i (the t3i has a flip out lcd but more expensive) just to start out (they are under 1k for kits) and you can resell them once you get good
however, with any dslr, whats important is the lens, you think the body is expensive, wait till you drop 2-3 times that on a good "L" lens (if youre looking into canons)
since youre doing professional shots, invest in a good lens first and foremost, and join some camera forums, not just here on OCN
Also, with taking pictures for money, you have to be good at it, its not just the camera, and you should get a decent flash because the flashes built into cameras arnt gonna be suitable.
short answer, if youre gonna make money with it, no, the mark ii isnt overkill, but look into nikon too and decide for yourself. Dont give into the canon-nikon war and decide for yourself what features you want and the prices.

My wife said she would not be doing indoor pictures so the flash would not be much of an issue. I think she is thinking more of outdoor type of pictures like maybe senior pictures for students or something and since she is going to be new at it she is thinking of just doing it super cheap so that she is gaining some money and then people can get a good deal on photos and get them on a CD without paying ridiculous amounts.

Do cameras tend to hold their resale value pretty well? I appreciate your help! + rep to you thumb.gif
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camera bodies do not hold value.....lenses hold value.

if your wife wants to go professional i suggest to get at least a 7d or a old 50d/40d, i am not a very big guy (5'11") but i find the 60d and rebels way too small to use comfortable. tell her to go to a camera store (even bestbuy) and just hold the cameras. find the one that she finds most comfortable and buy that.

keep in mind, that 2000 dollars isnt that much after getting a body, lens, accessories
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honestly i dont suggest a newcomer to photography to drop a lot of money on a nice camera and probably end up getting cheap lenses and jumping straight into trying to do portrait photography for really cheap. while you may think that doing this is a way to help other people save money from paying insane prices you are still taking business from those with much more experience that do photos for a living. i admit when i got my camera and learned enough about it if i was asked to take some portraits for cheap i did it occasionally to have some extra money but if i had bought my gear with the hopes that i could make a decent amount of money jumping into photography as a newcomer i would have gone hungry really quick as there is not a high demand for new photographers that charge money. most people will not want to pay if they know you are new.

just a short little rant. when you do get the camera let your wife practice a bunch on you and kids and parents. and get her some books on portrait photography to help her learn so that when she has complete confidence with her camera and lenses then when she starts charging the shots will look nice rather than looking like she is learning as she goes. it will be much more rewarding for her if she goes that way rather than jumping straight in on day 1 trying to make money and wondering why she cant get referrals and repeat business with people.

if she is really interested in specifically portraits i suggest getting her an 85mm f1.8 and if she does small group shots by chance honestly a sigma 30 f1.4 would work nice or a 50 1.8 and stand back a little bit



on a side note about the mentioning of joining camera forums. take stuff people say on photo critique forums with a grain of salt as most users on a site such as potn think that everything is terrible and are very harsh critics

but overall like mzn10 said if she is wanting to go professional (which is not going to happen overnight or even over like a year or 2 if shes completely new to photography) get at least a 7D. anything smaller will probably make your hands hurt after using it for a long time. and with cameras like the 7D and higher you have tons of more features that are offered which will probably go unused or be completely overwhelming but very helpful once she learns them all
Edited by Conspiracy - 4/21/12 at 6:01am
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We went ahead and ordered a Canon 60D. It has the 1.6 cropped sensor in it just like the 7D. In fact they are the exact same sensor... only real difference is 9 focus points vs 19. I know the 5D Mark ii has a full frame sensor... but I don't think we are going to worry so much about that right now.

I am going to order a book for my wife as well that will help her learn the camera faster. She is already pretty good at taking pictures. She has taken a few classes before and learned how to do alot of neat photo tricks. When we get it, I will take some of her pictures and post them here for your opinions biggrin.gif. Thank you for the help guys. She is extremely excited about this.
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congrats on the purchase im sure she will enjoy it. if she does lots of portraits and depending on personal preference i also suggest a battery grip for the future that makes shooting vertical easier for a long period of time and easier overall (i shoot sports and my camera is pretty much always shot vertical) also before you look at the canon brand battery grip and die from the price lol there are 3rd party ones that are half the price and some say just as good. i have a zeikos grip on my 7D and i am very happy with it. i only suggest that if she finds herself pretty much taking only vertical portraits because after a while your wrist will get a little tired and the grip helps because the way you hold the camera with the grip its easier to get a level shot
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congrats on the purchase im sure she will enjoy it. if she does lots of portraits and depending on personal preference i also suggest a battery grip for the future that makes shooting vertical easier for a long period of time and easier overall (i shoot sports and my camera is pretty much always shot vertical) also before you look at the canon brand battery grip and die from the price lol there are 3rd party ones that are half the price and some say just as good. i have a zeikos grip on my 7D and i am very happy with it. i only suggest that if she finds herself pretty much taking only vertical portraits because after a while your wrist will get a little tired and the grip helps because the way you hold the camera with the grip its easier to get a level shot

Would it be beneficial to purchase a hood for the lens? The camera comes with a EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens. I think we will just stick with this lens for now and then buy more later on. For photo editing we have photoshop but is it good to also have lightroom 4 (I can get it with a student discount for $79). Are there any other add on things we should purchase for our camera besides battery grip? I REALLY appreciate your input and help! There are so much more to these cameras than what we originally thought. rolleyes.gif
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lens hoods are useful. help cut down on lens flare unless you point the lens right at the sun or something and they protect the front element. they arent a bad thing to have. some photogs like them and some dont. i will add that you dont need to bother with a UV filter as they really do nothing and can reduce image quality if you buy a cheap one and they will cause flares if you point a UV filter at lights or at least from my experience doing sports broadcasts we took them off because it caused the stadium lights to flare
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no need to spend extra $ on a hood. that lens doesnt flare that easily.

yes get LR4, it will help her workflow.
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