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post #1311 of 6919
Hi Guy,
I just got Sabertooth Z77 with Intel i5 3570K in an ancient NZXT Tempest (original) case. My mobo temps are going crazy. I should have taken a screenshot but I don't have with me right now. My "Dram" temp is around 40-41C idle and 44-46C under load and my mobo temp is 35-37C idle and 39-40C under load. I had to disable one intake fan from front panel to get that mobo temperature. I understand that USB 3.0, PCH and SATA 6 temps are higher due my graphic card (AMD 6950) but why is "Dram" and "mobo" temps are that high?
It is because I have bad sensor or bad board or my air flow is messing up?
post #1312 of 6919
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Originally Posted by arkarkwin View Post

Hi Guy,
I just got Sabertooth Z77 with Intel i5 3570K in an ancient NZXT Tempest (original) case. My mobo temps are going crazy. I should have taken a screenshot but I don't have with me right now. My "Dram" temp is around 40-41C idle and 44-46C under load and my mobo temp is 35-37C idle and 39-40C under load. I had to disable one intake fan from front panel to get that mobo temperature. I understand that USB 3.0, PCH and SATA 6 temps are higher due my graphic card (AMD 6950) but why is "Dram" and "mobo" temps are that high?
It is because I have bad sensor or bad board or my air flow is messing up?

Where did you read those temps from the BIOS or RealTemp? Also was one of the intake fans not working and that's why you had to disable it? Finally you have the two onboard mobo fans the Sabertooth came with installed?
 
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THnx!

I live in norway.. hehe so no newegg for me tongue.gif

Oh, is the corsair vengeance not god? 4x4gb 9-9-9-24 1.5v?

From what i have read, people do use them with this setup, samsung ram, i had never even heard of haha, we dont have them here. i have never been overcloking before, only tried and faildbecause of my wrong.. ish, ram settup.. tongue.gif
post #1314 of 6919
Guys I have a question. With no programs running, i launch CPUZ and it shows the vcore already at 1.200. Once i start Prime95 it begins to drop into the 1.1's. However, if my system is not overclock, stock 3.4mhz, it's the oposite. Vcore will show at like 0.9 something and once i run a stress test it goes up on voltage, which is normal from what i know. So what i'm trying to say is that with my system idle the vcore is already at 1.20v. In the bios i have it on offset (not manual), everything is on defaults, all i do is change multiplier to 40 or 41 to begin testing.

however, yesterday it was running how it should...vcore is low since system is idle and once prime runs it goes up. today is doing the complete opposite and can't figure it out!

have i5 3570k
h100 cooler.
post #1315 of 6919
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Where did you read those temps from the BIOS or RealTemp? Also was one of the intake fans not working and that's why you had to disable it? Finally you have the two onboard mobo fans the Sabertooth came with installed?

I read the temps from both BIOS, RealTemp, HWTemp, and supplied Thermal Radar. I disabled on intake fan because mobo temp would jump up to 42-43C in idle when that's fan is running. That fan has around 80+CFM and it is directed toward mobo sensor from front panel. Between the fan and the mobo, I got one HD and a SSD.
I have installed two onboard mobo fans and I have even checked for corrected fan orientation twice just to make sure I have installed it correctly.
Rest of my temperatures are down. I overclocked my i5 3570K to 3.8Ghz with memory auto clocked to 2133. I use auto clocking feature from the Bios. My CPU idle temp is 30-32C with 35-38C under full load. My 1st core and 4th core have 10C difference. For example, my 1st core is around 33-38C and my 4th core is 23-30C. I have to reseat and reapply thermal paste but I don't think it affects the mobo temp.
post #1316 of 6919
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Originally Posted by Makkqverk View Post

THnx!
I live in norway.. hehe so no newegg for me tongue.gif
Oh, is the corsair vengeance not god? 4x4gb 9-9-9-24 1.5v?
From what i have read, people do use them with this setup, samsung ram, i had never even heard of haha, we dont have them here. i have never been overcloking before, only tried and faildbecause of my wrong.. ish, ram settup.. tongue.gif

That sucks frown.gif I couldn't imagine not having a site like newegg.

It should be fine, but I'm saying depending on which speed RAM you are buying you may need to check for compatibility. If its DDR3 1600 or 1866, then you should be ok, but if the RAM is rated for something higher like 2133 or 2400 then you need to check for compatibility if it can run at those rated speeds. Of course, the RAM still may run if it isn't listed, but its good to check anyway.

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Guys I have a question. With no programs running, i launch CPUZ and it shows the vcore already at 1.200. Once i start Prime95 it begins to drop into the 1.1's. However, if my system is not overclock, stock 3.4mhz, it's the oposite. Vcore will show at like 0.9 something and once i run a stress test it goes up on voltage, which is normal from what i know. So what i'm trying to say is that with my system idle the vcore is already at 1.20v. In the bios i have it on offset (not manual), everything is on defaults, all i do is change multiplier to 40 or 41 to begin testing.
however, yesterday it was running how it should...vcore is low since system is idle and once prime runs it goes up. today is doing the complete opposite and can't figure it out!
have i5 3570k
h100 cooler.

In the first scenario with the overclock, that sounds like vDroop is kicking in and dropping the voltage. You have it set for offset of 1.2V? Then it should hover around the offset from 1.2 with what you have it set to as well as taking into account how much vDroop is dropping it. (I believe that is a setting as well in the BIOS). This is entirely normal and you want this to be happening, albeit too much can cause you to have to constantly tweak up the vCore. Not too mention, this could also be on the overclock you have the speedstep turned off, which drops the clock speed down during idle. If speedstep is off, the vCore and clock speed will be constant during idle and not drop such as with speedstep on. For the stock settings, speedstep is on and the vCore and clock speed will be low as to what you are saying because the clock speed is running low at idle. Once you kick off a Prime95 test, the voltage will go up because its heading to the stock clock speed as well as the vCore that the BIOS auto setting has determined.

Hope this all helps.
 
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post #1317 of 6919
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I have installed two onboard mobo fans and I have even checked for corrected fan orientation twice just to make sure I have installed it correctly.
Rest of my temperatures are down. I overclocked my i5 3570K to 3.8Ghz with memory auto clocked to 2133. I use auto clocking feature from the Bios. My CPU idle temp is 30-32C with 35-38C under full load. My 1st core and 4th core have 10C difference. For example, my 1st core is around 33-38C and my 4th core is 23-30C. I have to reseat and reapply thermal paste but I don't think it affects the mobo temp.

This is extremely common, the first core running the hottest on that chip. I wouldn't trouble yourself at those low temperatures.

Edit: I recommend you avoid the auto overclocking feature with Ivy Bridge. It tends to set the voltage too high, and Ivy Bridge tends to run hot anyways given the paste they use between the Heat Spreader and the CPU die on Ivy Bridge chips, instead of fluxless solder used on Sandy Bridge and others. Also, 22 nm technology increases the power, and thus heat, density due to the smaller die size. Pile on the highish voltage that the Saber auto-overclock feature adds, and you've got one hot Ivy.
Not quite as hot as this Ivy, though: http://images.wikia.com/batman/images/1/1e/Poison-ivy-uma.jpg
Edited by lzepplin01 - 7/6/12 at 7:59pm
post #1318 of 6919
Snorkle.gif forgot to mention.. it is 1600mhz =)
post #1319 of 6919
I'm confused as well how the voltage is setup on this chip. I've been testing different overclocks for the past 36 hours or so, and it seems to be running really hot - but I'm associating that with very high voltages. I'm just unsure of how the automatic voltage stepping works - because I'm jumping all around.

Getting core temps in RealTemp of 72C on air, running 100x42 @ 1.2V in Cpu-Z. However, in AI Suite it shows the voltage of 1.085 V? And in BIOS it's 1.165, so I'm just really confused as how it's calculating all of these.

And yet as soon as I go below 1.2V, I'll blue screen - but usually when stopping prime95 tests, never when running. Not sure what to tweak next.
    
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I'm confused as well how the voltage is setup on this chip. I've been testing different overclocks for the past 36 hours or so, and it seems to be running really hot - but I'm associating that with very high voltages. I'm just unsure of how the automatic voltage stepping works - because I'm jumping all around.
Getting core temps in RealTemp of 72C on air, running 100x42 @ 1.2V in Cpu-Z. However, in AI Suite it shows the voltage of 1.085 V? And in BIOS it's 1.165, so I'm just really confused as how it's calculating all of these.
And yet as soon as I go below 1.2V, I'll blue screen - but usually when stopping prime95 tests, never when running. Not sure what to tweak next.

You should tweak the voltage offset. What is your voltage set in bios? Manual or auto and what is the offset?
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