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I bought my board the week it came out, and have been waiting for all my parts to arrived. I finally put it together this week and I can tell you, you can flash to the most current bios. I d/l the most current, I think it was 1504. extracted it and renamed the file to Z77ST.CAP and put my usb stick in the correct USB port and clicked the flash button. It took only a minute and worked flawlessly.
thanks,
Chris
So I take it everything has worked out?
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Okay, built up a system and am trying to figure out where to connect my SATA 6Gb/s SSD I want to use as the boot drive. I also have two 1TB SATA 6Gb/s harddrives for data storage and want them set up as RAID 1 (mirrored.) Reading the manual it says I should use the Intel (brown) SATA ports for the RAID harddrives - okay, fine. But I had boot problems and after some digging, ran across a post that claimed:
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Also, IF the SSD are for the OS then you MUST use the Intel SATA ports, the ASMedia are for Data only i.e. not bootable.

Huh? I can't use the Intel SATA 6Gb/s ports for both my boot drive and my RAID storage drives because there are only two ports available. I'd like to use only SATA 6Gb/s ports in order to keep drive access times down.

There are four ASMedia SATA 6 Gb/s ports, but since the manual says nothing about them being able to handle RAID, I assume they're out. The manual also says those ports are for data harddrives only, so using them for the boot drive appears to be out as well.

It appears that either the boot drive or data drives will have to move to the Intel SATA 3 Gb/s port, which is disappointing. Is this just how it is?It seems a real shame to have to kick the data throughput in the nuts and cut it in half. Is there any way round this? Other than this issue, this motherboard is amazing!

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It looks like another part of my problem is that I set the SATA ports to "RAID" after loading windows... that can't of helped. However, my question still stands, is there a way to retain SATA 6Gb/s throughput for both my boot and RAID drives?
Edited by kb58 - 8/30/12 at 8:02am
post #2433 of 6915
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Originally Posted by kb58 View Post

Okay, built up a system and am trying to figure out where to connect my SATA 6Gb/s SSD I want to use as the boot drive. I also have two 1TB SATA 6Gb/s harddrives for data storage and want them set up as RAID 1 (mirrored.) Reading the manual it says I should use the Intel (brown) SATA ports for the RAID harddrives - okay, fine. But I had boot problems and after some digging, ran across a post that claimed:
Huh? I can't use the Intel SATA 6Gb/s ports for both my boot drive and my RAID storage drives because there are only two ports available. I'd like to use only SATA 6Gb/s ports in order to keep drive access times down.
It appears that either the boot drive or data drives will have to move to the SATA 3 Gb/s port, which is disappointing. Is this just how it is? I realize that there are two ASMedia SATA 6 Gb/s ports, but since the manual says nothing about them being able to handle RAID, I assume that's out. And, since they say for data harddrives only, using them for the boot drive appears to be out as well.
It seems a real shame to have to kick the data throughput in the nuts and cut it in half. Is there any way round this? Other than this issue, this motherboard is amazing!
[Edit]
It looks like another part of my problem is that I set the SATA ports to "RAID" after loading windows... that can't of helped. However, my question still stands, is there a way to retain SATA 6Gb/s throughput for both my boot and RAID drives?

Yeah your kinda stuck with either your Raid array on brown or kicked down to black..Its a shame Asmedia does not support Raid and or Boot.
The Black ports do support raid but obviously at 3gb/s .. So ..keep your storage drives on black in raid and boot ssd on brown is what i would do..
Also did you see page 4-31? " Due to the Chipset limitation, when set any of SATA ports to Raid mode, all SATA ports run at Raid mode together."
Hmmm.. Or you could buy a controller card but not really a great option..
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Thanks Hanoverfist, I was hoping you'd reply - you're a terrific one-man information source here!
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Also did you see page 4-31? " Due to the Chipset limitation, when set any of SATA ports to Raid mode, all SATA ports run at Raid mode together."

Yes I saw that and it was bugging me in the back of my mind. It makes things even more confusing because it seems to imply that if I set the ports to RAID, then how the heck can I ever boot the machine? "If" that quote in my first post is correct - that only Intel ports can be used for boot drives - then it isn't possible to have RAID on this board? I almost don't believe that - people do have RAID drives running on this motherboard afterall. The question is then, where are they plugging in their boot drive? I suspect they're putting it on one of the two ASMedia 6Gb/s ports.

Any RAID users here care to comment how you have your drives plugged in?

Also, can someone point to where it says that only Intel SATA ports can be used for boot drives? Reason I ask is because before I started messing with the RAID settings, my machine was booting into Windows via the ASMedia 6Gb/s port just fine...

And thanks, this forum's awesome!
Edited by kb58 - 8/30/12 at 8:28am
post #2435 of 6915
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Thanks Hanoverfist, I was hoping you'd reply - you're a terrific one-man information source here!
Yes I saw that and it was bugging me in the back of my mind. It makes things even more confusing because it seems to imply that if I set the ports to RAID, then how the heck can I ever boot the machine? "If" that post I quoted is correct - that only Intel ports can be used for boot drives - then it isn't possible to have RAID on this board? I almost don't believe that - people do have RAID drives running on this motherboard afterall. The question is then, where are they plugging in their boot drive? I suspect they're putting it on one of the two ASMedia 6Gb/s ports.
Any RAID users here care to comment how you have your drives plugged in?
And thanks, this forum's awesome!
I kinda take that statement on pg 4-31 to mean if you set the black ports to raid mode it would just affect those ports and not the brown ports.. which you could still use as your boot with a single ssd..
From everything i have read Asmedia does not support Raid OR Boot...
post #2436 of 6915
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That would be a good idea because the manual is Stating the CPU fan header only handles 1Amp or 12Watts so im still trying to find if the same holds true for the other Chassis Fan Headers.. smile.gif
Well to play it safe i am guessing 12w per fan header on the rest of the headers as well..

I have done everything in my power to get a straight answer from Asus. Emailing them, they said they weren't sure and to call. So I called, and sat on the phone for 45 minutes only for them to tell me it should be the same as the cpu fan.

I find it hard to believe they don't know the exact numbers...call the engineers. I was really happy with Asus support in the past (technical questions and such), but this was a bit disheartening.

I ended up buying a sentry mesh controller. $24.00 on amazon. Doesn't look too bad in my C70 OD case.


Also, strange thing happened last night. My ram went down from 7.9 to 7.8 in wei. I wonder if its from the latest bios? When i originally got the ram, it was ranked at 7.8, but then I changed the command rate to 1 and it went up. Nothing has changed, so I'm a bit confused.
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... if you set the black ports to raid mode it would just affect those ports...

Wait... how do I set just those ports to RAID? I don't have the machine in front of me, but as I recall, there's only one BIOS setting for RAID - either it's on or off - and appears to apply to all ports.
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I have done everything in my power to get a straight answer from Asus. Emailing them, they said they weren't sure and to call. So I called, and sat on the phone for 45 minutes only for them to tell me it should be the same as the cpu fan.
I find it hard to believe they don't know the exact numbers...call the engineers. I was really happy with Asus support in the past (technical questions and such), but this was a bit disheartening.
I ended up buying a sentry mesh controller. $24.00 on amazon. Doesn't look too bad in my C70 OD case.
Also, strange thing happened last night. My ram went down from 7.9 to 7.8 in wei. I wonder if its from the latest bios? When i originally got the ram, it was ranked at 7.8, but then I changed the command rate to 1 and it went up. Nothing has changed, so I'm a bit confused.
Thats funny about your WEI score ..my ram does 7.9 but my 3770k gets 7.8.. I dont know how much stock to put into this WEI score.. Obviously its some indication of how well your hardware works but ....
and to this amp draw question, I cant find the answer so Im sticking with 1 amp for all Headers until something shows different. tongue.gif
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Wait... how do I set just those ports to RAID? I don't have the machine in front of me, but as I recall, there's only one BIOS setting for RAID - either it's on or off - and appears to apply to all ports.
On the initial setup of raid I believe you would just select the 2 drives, in your case , that say are connected to the black ports and go from there.. I have not done this so can not be sure as to the affect on the drive connected to brown at this point.

There might be some info here that could help you better than me..
http://www.overclock.net/t/1227670/how-to-set-up-raid#post_16685084
Edited by Hanoverfist - 8/30/12 at 9:06am
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Thats funny about your WEI score ..my ram does 7.9 but my 3770k gets 7.8.. I dont know how much stock to put into this WEI score.. Obviously its some indication of how well your hardware works but ....
and to this amp draw question, I cant find the answer so Im sticking with 1 amp for all Headers until something shows different. tongue.gif

Ty for rep smile.gif

My ram is only running 800/1600mhz so I guess I shouldn't worry about it too much.

Yeah, I was originally worried because I was using NZXT Y-splitters (3.99 on amazon) for my case fans and using AI Suite. AI suite would occasionally show that the fan speeds had slowed to low RPMS, but this might just be software bugs much like the power supply errors is sometimes throws. Either way, getting the Sentry Mesh controller, takes care of that. 30w per channel and I can run the splitter without worry.

The only negative is that with Corsair SP120 Quiets, the fan motor will make a ticking sound with the controller on certain speeds/voltages. It seems to like really low (slow/quiet) or full volts (louder, more air movement) If I put it to halfway, it makes a ticking noise.

It's not the end of the world, because if I want it to me quiet, I just turn them all the way down. If I'm going to be gaming, I just turn them up. I also like not having to have the AI suite services and extras running in the background. I suppose I could go back to the headers on the board, because I don't think the ticking occurred, but well...I'm just overthinking now. tongue.gif
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