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CPU: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz(8 Core) - $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961

Graphics Card: 2 SAPPHIRE 100315-2GL Radeon HD 6850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 Crossfired- $359.98 ($179.99 x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102959


Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case- $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Power Supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V- $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021



RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600- $96.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145347



there is no way a bulldozer(28 nm tech) can compete with an ivybridge(22 nm tech) in any way shape or form... the IPC for ivybridge will just kill the bulldozer in performance in any benchmark you can test it on... there s no reason to spend $ on that chip when ivybridge is going to be released within the next 10 days....

for his budget, there is no reason for him to buy a previous generation GPU.(40nm tech) he can easily use a single 680GTX(28nm tech) to achieve his goal. and has the additional headroom for SLi later down the road if he decides to upgrade. even if his goal is eyefinity, he should at least be looking at a pair of 7870's(28nm tech) or just a 7970(28nm tech) for now and upgrade later if he needs more power.

for his budget, he can do MUCH better then a HAF 932.... HAF cases are notorious for being dust magnets and if he's learning to build a machine, he should learn to build it proper with air filters and everything. dust is a bad thing and he should learn this early in his computing life. also a computer case is a LONG term investment. it's the ONLY part of the computer that does not degrade/depreciate over time. a good performing case today will be a good performer 10 or 15 years from now. the only difference would be instead of USB3, he'd be using like USB7 by then biggrin.gif it's possible he can use the case he buys now till he has kids of his own smile.gif

again. for his budget, he should look into an AX powersupply instead of the TX. powersupply is like part of the case... meaning it will last him over a few builds. he'll likely still be using the same powersupply he buys now when he goes off to college.(maybe even when he graduates from college biggrin.gif ) it's something that rarely expire and are moved from build to build. spending good $ on the best powersupply will pay off in the long term in terms of protection of his system and performance.

as far as RAM, he really should look into a pair of 8 gig instead of 2 pairs of 4 gigs.... a single pair of ram provides far superior cooling/long term durability then 2 pair of rams all stuck right next to eachother.
post #12 of 14
you are more than welcome to your own opinion my good sir, i used an FX 8 Series as an example because i have already stated that i am and was a long time Intel/nVidia combo user and i felt it was time for a switch even if for a short time. But he asked for Mid-High which i took as Medium High and if you run the numbers the overall of the crossfired GPU's n CPU is in the Medium High range. As for the case and dust i will not debate you on that but im a notorious clean freak when it comes to cleaning out my case i do it every Saturday morning(while nursing a hangover) if i didn't have dust to clean i might have to go outside and actually socialize with these carbon based life forms that are bi-pedal *cowers in corner* but back to the dual 6850 HD vs. single 680 GTX, i remember seeing 2 good examples 1 being Heaven 11dx Benchmark and other being SWTOR(i think) same scenarios same conditions and iirc the double radeon won out in both performance and in less strain on the double cards as opposed to the single card since the double cards can basically share the work(for supported software that is) maybe it wasn't SWTOR i might have to go digging through my browser history. Either way like i said in first sentence you are welcome to your opinion but comparing Intel to AMD or nVidia to AMD is like comparing apples to oranges since they are separate architecture and this is coming from a longtime intel/nvidia supporter ;-)

*edit* now that i think about it Psyclum might be right i dont think it was the 680 GTX that was in the tests i seen. Oh well agree to disagree i always say.
Edited by NecTheGreat - 4/23/12 at 2:12am
post #13 of 14
heh yah i held off buying a 2500k for about 4 months waiting for the bulldozer. unfortunately, the bulldozer did not deliver on what was promised to be a game changer. they were totally off the mark in IPC even taking consideration of no OS optimization. i REALLY wanted the bulldozer and i was REALLY disappointed with the results frown.gif even if it wasn't poor, with ivybridge releasing, it still would have been beaten simply because ivybridge uses 22 nm and bulldozer uses 32nm tech. it's a whole generation apart regardless of chip design...
post #14 of 14
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you are more than welcome to your own opinion my good sir, i used an FX 8 Series as an example because i have already stated that i am and was a long time Intel/nVidia combo user and i felt it was time for a switch even if for a short time. But he asked for Mid-High which i took as Medium High and if you run the numbers the overall of the crossfired GPU's n CPU is in the Medium High range. As for the case and dust i will not debate you on that but im a notorious clean freak when it comes to cleaning out my case i do it every Saturday morning(while nursing a hangover) if i didn't have dust to clean i might have to go outside and actually socialize with these carbon based life forms that are bi-pedal *cowers in corner* but back to the dual 6850 HD vs. single 680 GTX, i remember seeing 2 good examples 1 being Heaven 11dx Benchmark and other being SWTOR(i think) same scenarios same conditions and iirc the double radeon won out in both performance and in less strain on the double cards as opposed to the single card since the double cards can basically share the work(for supported software that is) maybe it wasn't SWTOR i might have to go digging through my browser history. Either way like i said in first sentence you are welcome to your opinion but comparing Intel to AMD or nVidia to AMD is like comparing apples to oranges since they are separate architecture and this is coming from a longtime intel/nvidia supporter ;-)
*edit* now that i think about it Psyclum might be right i dont think it was the 680 GTX that was in the tests i seen. Oh well agree to disagree i always say.

Yeah, I think we should help him get something a lot cheaper that is solid, reliable, and upgradable. That means getting a 2011 socket board with >= 2 PCI 16x slots, a nice sized PSU, a GTX 680, and a nice air cooler. Also, a good case taht can accomadate water cooling down the road if he wants it, but that isn't overpriced.
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