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post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by KinderMX View Post

Wow i didn't know that so to make it clear if i buy 32gb of ram and use 16GB for space so i will have a virtual drive with 16gb space?not enough space for games lol
EDIT:i am buying another 680 so it doesn't matter about the ram..

yes sir, you make a 16gb virtual drive wich is insane fast.
i know you coudn't throw all your games on but you can put 1-2 programs on there u use the most. and u even could make the disk 24 Gb since u mostly only uses 4gb ram
post #12 of 16
Hi guys, could I put wow on a 22GB drive and load it even more instantly than the ssd?
post #13 of 16
I have the same issue here, 16GB 2400mhz (i've just returned them to the store, they only worked at 2133 cl 10-11-11 1.61v on H100, i7 3770k, Asrock z77 Extreme 4, 2x Intel S-ATA 3, 330 series, 180GBx2, GTX 580 Direct CU II, nzxt Phantom, etc.
And would like to buy the Avexir Core series 32gb (4x8gb) ddr3 1600mhz, to be future proof, and also because 2133 wouldn't make an astounding difference in real life situations (i've done my share of benchmarks).

Please advise.
post #14 of 16
Just wanted to chime in with a few bits of info....

First, running only 4 DIMM's filled will allow for a higher CPU overclock in almost all cases, as it puts significantly less strain on the CPU IMC. This is regardless of the speed of the memory.

Only a small percentage of SNB-E chips will allow for speeds >2133, again due to the IMC. I would personally not spend the money for DDR3-2400 and instead buy a kit rated at 2133 with tight timings.

Even with 16GB of RAM, you should have plenty of memory with which to make a RAM drive. I don't personally have a lot of experience using RAM-drives on home PC's, but running Win7 Pro (for example), you should easily be able to dedicate 6-8GB of memory for this purpose and not hinder performance in anything outside of (potentially) Photoshop and some other A/V-editing programs.


The best RAM kit for X79 that I have found is the G.Skill RipjawsZ DDR3-2133 9-11-10-28 16GB (4x4) kit, which is absolutely phenomenal and costs ~$100-120 depending on sales. The memory overclocks like crazy, at least the kits I have seen (read the review at TPU, written by Cadaveca; he is the expert on this kit). DDR3-2400 10-12-11-30 is almost always possible, and I have seen 2133 9-10-9-27, 1866 8-9-9-26, 1600 7-8-7-24 (and 6-7-6-24 once, with 1.675v), etc. The kit is crazy-flexible, and for the price I have yet to see anything beat it.

Then, if you really must have 32GB, you can always buy a second kit to fill up the other 4 DIMM's, although you will lose some CPU overclocking overhead.
   
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i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
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LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
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Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
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4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
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i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD 
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WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
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4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
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55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
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post #15 of 16
What about Ivy 3770k on Asrock Extreme4? smile.gif
Would you rather recommend 16gb samsung 30nm 1.35v ., 4 dimms who I hope to go as high as 2400mhz,
or 32gb 1600mhz avexir core series and make a ram drive?
post #16 of 16
I think that 16GB is plenty for a RAM-drive for the vast majority of people, as I personally don't see the need for more than a 4-6GB RAM-drive, but again that is something that is very dependent on the individual and his/or needs from the computer. I will say that a 4GB RAM-Drive is more than enough to hold both FF+Chrome Browser Caches, Win7 temp files, and so forth and still have room to spare, at least in my usage patterns.

The Ripjaws-Z kit that I rave about is just as good on the Z77 platform as it is on the X79, and potentially even better as the 3770K tends to be a significantly better at overclocking memory than the 3820/3930K/3960X due to an apparently stronger IMC. That means the aforementioned ~2500MT/s maximum speed from the kit that I've seen may not be the actual maximum, as it was done using a Rampage IV Extreme and a 3930K, so it's extremely possible that you could hit higher numbers with your 3770K. The Ripjaws-Z are not "quad-channel only" memory, they are simply guaranteed to work as a kit in Quad-Channel configs, but there is nothing preventing their use in dual-channel or even single-channel modes. The brand of "Ripjaws-Z" is simply a step-up over the Ripjaws-X, and depending on the kit either a side-step or step-below the Trident X kits. Thus, in G.Skill hierarchy, it basically goes: Trident X > Ripjaws-Z > Trident > Ripjaws-X = Ares > Sniper > the rest.

That brings me to another point, and that is that the most recent Intel CPU's (SNB/SNB-E/IVB) all LOVE Raw Speed, while being very much "meh" about timings. That means that you will very likely be much better off with DDR3-2400 CL10 than you would DDR3-1600 CL7.

Honestly, most people won't ever come close to using 16GB of memory, it's more of a "RAM is super-cheap now so it's smarter to buy more than I need than end up needing more when the price jumps" kind of thing, than it is a necessity. 32GB is a huge amount, and unless you are doing CAD or the like, I doubt you would ever come anywhere close to actually getting close to using anywhere near all of the memory you'd have available. Even using a RAM-drive, a 16GB drive is way more than I think you will ever end up using, so I would highly recommend that you TRULY THINK ABOUT what your REAL NEEDS for this computer are...
I am just trying to help prevent you from buying something because of "features" that you'll likely never, ever use aside from the first time you open the package just to see what it is like only to completely forget about it. I have bought things with the same results too many times to count, and it sucks, so I am really trying to help you get the absolute most ACTUAL product for your money.

Good luck!thumb.gif
   
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i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
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LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
OtherOtherOtherOther
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930K @ 4.92Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EVGA GTX780Ti Classified K|ngp|n Edition @ 1483... 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD WD5000HHTZ 10krpm 500GB VelociRaptor 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
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Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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