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Hello Forum,

I know that there is an OC setback when filling all RAM slots and the CPU might need more volts for the same OC. How large is this margin, and will the performance increase be larger from the RAM than the decrease in the CPU OC?

I hope someone can help me here.
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post #2 of 10
It will hurt the OC..I'd run no more than 2 sticks if benching.
You'll need a few notches more IMC voltage..that's about it.
 
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Would you benefit from more ram?

1. Right click on My Computer on your desktop or start menu, then click properties.
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3. Now that you know how much ram you have, restart your computer and login. Don't open any programs, just let the computer boot completely and run whatever programs it auto-runs at startup.
4. Now press control-alt-delete to bring up the task manager and click on the Performance tab. Near the bottom you should see a display. Focus on the Total and Available amounts of Physical Memory.
5. The amounts are in Kilobytes so ignore the last 3 digits. The next 3 digits after that are the amounts of Megabytes you have total and available.
6. Do some math. Write down the total amount and the available amount and strip off the last 3 digits so they're both in megabytes. So if the value is 129427 available, write down 129 MB available.
7. Now divide the available amount by the total amount and multiply by 100 and you'll get the percent of free memory. If you have 129 available out of 256 MB total, that would be 50.39% free.
8. If your percentage is lower than 50%, that means it's taking over half the ram just to boot into Windows.
9. Now open all the programs that you typically have open at once. Now re-check the available ram compared to the total ram and see how empty it is. If it's under 25% empty now, you'll probably want to consider getting more ram. If it's 15%, your situation is pretty critical and you absolutely need more ram!
10. Consider opening the most memory intensive programs you use like a video or photo editor and see what the ram is at then. If that causes the memory to be mostly full, you'd benefit from installing more ram for those programs but it's not as critical since more may not be needed to run typical programs like browser and e-mail.

For games, you won't see much benefit from a lot of ram.
With a single GPU you wont see much benefit from more than a 4GHz overclock.
With SLI or CF you will see the benefit of higher overclocks.

That's my understanding of it.
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It will hurt the OC..I'd run no more than 2 sticks if benching.
You'll need a few notches more IMC voltage..that's about it.

Okay then, Sounds about right. I'm somewhat into graphic design and all (and being on a SB board) I sort of have to fill all dimms for 16gb ram. (thinking of creating a 8gb RAMdisc as super-speed storage).
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Would you benefit from more ram?
1. Right click on My Computer on your desktop or start menu, then click properties.
2. This will bring up system properties. On the General tab, which should open first by default, you'll see near the bottom right the amount of ram you have installed. On a few computers this may not be listed there.
3. Now that you know how much ram you have, restart your computer and login. Don't open any programs, just let the computer boot completely and run whatever programs it auto-runs at startup.
4. Now press control-alt-delete to bring up the task manager and click on the Performance tab. Near the bottom you should see a display. Focus on the Total and Available amounts of Physical Memory.
5. The amounts are in Kilobytes so ignore the last 3 digits. The next 3 digits after that are the amounts of Megabytes you have total and available.
6. Do some math. Write down the total amount and the available amount and strip off the last 3 digits so they're both in megabytes. So if the value is 129427 available, write down 129 MB available.
7. Now divide the available amount by the total amount and multiply by 100 and you'll get the percent of free memory. If you have 129 available out of 256 MB total, that would be 50.39% free.
8. If your percentage is lower than 50%, that means it's taking over half the ram just to boot into Windows.
9. Now open all the programs that you typically have open at once. Now re-check the available ram compared to the total ram and see how empty it is. If it's under 25% empty now, you'll probably want to consider getting more ram. If it's 15%, your situation is pretty critical and you absolutely need more ram!
10. Consider opening the most memory intensive programs you use like a video or photo editor and see what the ram is at then. If that causes the memory to be mostly full, you'd benefit from installing more ram for those programs but it's not as critical since more may not be needed to run typical programs like browser and e-mail.
For games, you won't see much benefit from a lot of ram.
With a single GPU you wont see much benefit from more than a 4GHz overclock.
With SLI or CF you will see the benefit of higher overclocks.
That's my understanding of it.

Hit here, I do sometimes get the message: you ran out of memory, your windows theme was changed, but never did fully max out. I have 8GB but I am considering 16. See above post. smile.gif Thanks for your response though
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Well, you can always buy 2 X 8GB sticks (making sure that your board supports them first)....I guess most SB motherboard support 8GB sticks with BIOS updates.
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Unless your planning to do liquid nitrogen suicide runs, I'm guessing the effect of filling all the ram slots on your overclock will be very minimal. Yes it does put slightly more stress on the memory controller because Sandy Bridge chips are overclocked via multiplier and not fsb it's much less of an issue then it was with previous chipsets. I don't know what type of overclock you were hoping for but all my ram slots are in use and I ended up at 4.8ghz.
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Hit here, I do sometimes get the message: you ran out of memory, your windows theme was changed, but never did fully max out. I have 8GB but I am considering 16. See above post. smile.gif Thanks for your response though

This means your gpu ran out of memory and not your system ram.
This happens to me when playing crysis at enthusiast settings
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This means your gpu ran out of memory and not your system ram.
This happens to me when playing crysis at enthusiast settings

lol, probably should have gone with a 7970 or waited for the 4GB version mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
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Unless your planning to do liquid nitrogen suicide runs, I'm guessing the effect of filling all the ram slots on your overclock will be very minimal. Yes it does put slightly more stress on the memory controller because Sandy Bridge chips are overclocked via multiplier and not fsb it's much less of an issue then it was with previous chipsets. I don't know what type of overclock you were hoping for but all my ram slots are in use and I ended up at 4.8ghz.

Okay, that sounds pretty good. I could push it to 4.8 (24/7: 4.2) so I should still be able to achieve it. I'm looking at an epic deal for a 2*4 kit (which I would buy twice) of excellent performance memory (Crucial Ballistix Elite) so I think I'll go with that. IF I ever get into hardcore benching I can always take a set out and then push farther. Thanks mate. thumb.gif
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