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I hope the resolution is better than 1366x768. That was the primary reason why I did not get a Y470.
1366x768 on a 14.1" is crippling for productivity.

The resolution is 1366x768.
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The resolution is 1366x768.

I'll be glad they keep the resolution so it won't mess with the gaming performance

now all I really really want is the 660M option to be real (which still sound too good to be true seeing even the M14x only has a 650M)



And if only they are willing to keep the price scheme at somewhere close to $799 for 650M version and $899 for 660M version (or whatever the extra graphical power it is worth)


I can dream can't i redface.gif
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Trust me, That is nothing. I got my G53 like 2 months ago. I had a Dell from 2004 I think. Trust me, going from that to this is mind blowing. GL with your future laptop thumb.gif
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Trust me, That is nothing. I got my G53 like 2 months ago. I had a Dell from 2004 I think. Trust me, going from that to this is mind blowing. GL with your future laptop thumb.gif

what exactly do you mean?

your old laptop was 3 years older than mine, AND you upgraded to a 15.6", of course the difference will be bigger lol

good to hear your old laptop survived this long though. My laptop isn't dead yet but it definitely isn't helping me cool down my room during summer. It is as if the internal cooling is failing
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Iv been gaming on laptops since they first started making them with 128 megabytes of video memory, specifically alienware.

I own a lenovo ideapad y460, you can see how it games on my youtube at http://www.youtube.com/notebookplayer, everthing on that channel was taken off of my laptop. I own gaming laptops, but my y460 is by far my favorite, i got it on special blackfriday for 699.00$, great bang for the buck.

Iv been watching the y480 very close, theres alot to like about the new design especially the backlit KB, i so want one. Im extremely disapointed kepler hasnt made it to the y480 though, I can only hope we see it introduced at some point, not just in the y580.

As for the resolution, Iv always loved my screen on my lenovo, my alienware i had before it was actually 1200p, 1600x1200, it was a giagantic screen on a 16.1 inch. If your not hell bent set on more pixels, it never even bothered me once transitioning over to the smaller work space on my screen.
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Iv been gaming on laptops since they first started making them with 128 megabytes of video memory, specifically alienware.
I own a lenovo ideapad y460, you can see how it games on my youtube at http://www.youtube.com/notebookplayer, everthing on that channel was taken off of my laptop. I own gaming laptops, but my y460 is by far my favorite, i got it on special blackfriday for 699.00$, great bang for the buck.
Iv been watching the y480 very close, theres alot to like about the new design especially the backlit KB, i so want one. Im extremely disapointed kepler hasnt made it to the y480 though, I can only hope we see it introduced at some point, not just in the y580.
As for the resolution, Iv always loved my screen on my lenovo, my alienware i had before it was actually 1200p, 1600x1200, it was a giagantic screen on a 16.1 inch. If your not hell bent set on more pixels, it never even bothered me once transitioning over to the smaller work space on my screen.

certainly good to know that you love your y460 as an owner of multiple gaming laptops

About things outside of raw power though, how is cooling and noise emission in that thing? The glossy screen?

I've only owned 1 matte laptop so far, used 3 matte desktop monitors personally, I've never used a glossy screen. Too scared to get one.

The 40" hdTV (4 ft away from a 8ft x 7ft window) in the living room is glossy, I tried plugging my computer in, played games with it and it was a trip to hell. To make things worse the game I tried playing at first was starcraft 2 rolleyes.gif , oh man did I got owned tongue.gif

I then switched to dragon age origins and the situation got less annoying, but it's still fairly undesirable as there's bound to be some parts of the screen i see with reflections on it


I liked the rumored spec of y480 so much I went as far to email lenovo about how they should implement screen options into every series (like why the duck does thinkpad have matte screen while ideapad doesn't? What's the point of that?) no replies from them whatsoever rolleyes.gif


If they price the y480 right (as stated earlier) though, I just might have to give in redface.gif
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You need to use precausion when doing heavy gaming, this laptop needs to be proped up in those circumstances. I have this laptop mat, it came with these rubber stubs that work well in this situation. I just put them on the underside to allow more air to be let in the intake, this keeps temperatures cooler by a good 15 celsius. Even so, I probably could get away with not using them at all and just letting the unit do what it does but ill be using this for a good long while so I want it to last, even so these newer laptops, they are built alot more efficient then some of the first gaming laptops and worrying about heat while nessasary isnt something you need to constantly be watching over. Yes I keep my monitor program running, not so much now, but I used to run it when ever I gamed, I Still do for the most part Iv just learned what my laptop can handle over the year and half Iv owned it.

Noise, the first time I powered on the unit it was so quite I couldnt even tell if it was running or not without looking at the screen. The fan will of course kick in to higher gear once you start your 3D gaming or encoding with software.

The screen, being glossy I havent noticed it to any extent. The thing that makes the 14 inch ideapad Y series so special is its power. Its really stupid I think, how so many laptop manufactures can churn out laptops without any discrete graphics, I mean its very very stupid and the Y series, its so obvious its much better buy then alot of the crap out there. Theres a few other good 14 inch laptops, the MSI DX460X I think, but there recent update was terrible with the nvidia 630m, the graphics card they had it in previously was the exact same model, the 540m, still its beatifull laptop I think its got the lesser GDDR3 video memory, pritty postive same as the new envys, they got the GDDR3 video memory instead of the GDDR5 memory that was supposedly supose to be in the Y480.

Really all laptops should come standard with dedicated graphics in my opinion, having the Ivy Bridge double the performance from the intel HD3000 graphics is a step in that direction but there needs to be even more. Laptop manufactures are seriously chokeing the market for every last penny they can get there greedy hands on. Inflation is rampid and the market is always in an upheavel because of this. How many times do people hear about how laptops sux because there no good at gaming and they still cost an arm and a leg, its because ****y companys slap there names on crap and mark it up 200% for unsuspecting buyers. The ideapad kinda puts to rest some of that which is nice. As long as they dont market it as just a gaming laptop were fine, they will stay good buys for many people, but once they start selling as a gaming laptop, the price will sky rocket just as all the gaming laptops currently cost. Seeing sub standerd gaming laptops sell for close to 2k is very not good to put it simplest.

Its weird, im huge gamer, but even so Id never think about buying a gaming laptop currently, you just dont get near enough for what you pay. I can say though, I got plenty with my ideapad and am very happy camper with it. If I was in the market for another laptop, theres no thinking twice about it, theres not another laptop on the market ID rather get then a Y480, well if it came with the 650m kepler like it was suppose to have but even with just the 640m fermi It still be up there in the top 3.

Theres no denying, the Y480 is the most powerfull true 14 inch laptop in the world. The m14x, with the 650m of course would be more powerfull but its heavier and bigger, not really considered a true 14 inch laptop, but just looking at the new 600 series laptops for the first time now from alienware, those are frigin A sweet!
Edited by eycel - 4/26/12 at 3:01am
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so ehh......the new Y480 is now on the website


and is it just me or its a BIG BOOOOOO?

seriously.....advertised it as having 650M or even 660M on a 14", power that is unmatched throughout the whole market, built up so much hype














and then comes out with a mere 640M?

what a letdown.
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so ehh......the new Y480 is now on the website
and is it just me or its a BIG BOOOOOO?
seriously.....advertised it as having 650M or even 660M on a 14", power that is unmatched throughout the whole market, built up so much hype
and then comes out with a mere 640M?
what a letdown.

The 660M I'm pretty sure was confirmed to be in regards to the Y580, seems like it was a reporting error if anything suggested otherwise. 650M was definitely supposed to be a choice, but.. the i7-3610QM has a 45W TDP and runs hotter than expected if it's anything like desktop IB. Lenovo probably was planning on a 35W TDP to squeeze in some more performance.

So yeah, Y480 is a bit of a letdown. 640M still uses the same die as the 660M, all cores enabled. I wouldn't write it off yet until we see overclocking results. 625mhz is way too low for a stock clock, *hopefully* they can at least hit 750mhz.

The real letdown is Nvidia's 600M Kepler lineup, it seems half-done to use 1 die for such a wide range in performance. 640M, meh, not bad - still above a 555M. 650M, 35% faster due to higher clocks and turbo; 660M, ok Nvidia, you can stop using the same GPU for all your midrange/upper-midrange cards. 670M and 675M being rebrands, It's just a mess. Remember last year - there was a huge performance gap between 555M and 560M. Now, it's between 640M and 650M, and the gap between 660M and 670M is almost non-existent if you factor in an overclock. AMD OTOH will have a full line, at least 7770M, 7850M, 7870M, 7950M, 7970M, all of which are 28nm.

So, we might have to wait for a Y480p (model with AMD GPU) to get something beastly. The 7750M is AMD's slowest 28nm GPU, and it should be between 460M and 560M performance. Meaning, similar to a 650M.

As for pricing, Lenovo said from the start, $900 base price. I'm sure the backlit keyboard is a decent part of the cost, but it's also a pretty good seller, so supply/demand is another part.
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Why is it such a letdown? I understand you thought it might have the 650 or 660m, but the 640m is the same die. Sure it may be underclocked a bit, but you can always change that. It will still smoke the 7690m in the Y470p and any GT 555m. I think it is a fantastic laptop. My 555m can overclock from 750MHz to over 900MHz, I would not be surprised if that 640m can be bumped up to 650m speeds. The only real issue I see is that it is GDDR3. Still, I love my Y570 and think the design of the Y480 looks amazing, especially the bushed metal look.
   
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