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origin is awful
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Ok. The crack at Steam was in regard to the threads title. Mostly I'm just trying to be a jerk cause I'm kinda choked everytime I read someone's negative attitude towards Origin/EA. Same fellas typically have a creepy, faithful devotion to Steam. Me.... I like retail versions of my games. I like to see the cases all lined up on my shelf. I haven't been gaming for too long but I do remember when Steam first came around. Pretty much looked like spyware to me back then. It was actually my young fella who would say, "everybody uses Steam. You are old!" thumb.gif Nowadays I've come around a bit and actually have a Steam account with about 85 titles. (Son loves the indie stuff)

I will come to a point.

I still do not like the idea of Steam (on to Origin in a min). I am quite capable of organizing my games, patching and updating them myself.....thank you. I can take screenshots and I can chat with all my friends. I have even met friends from all over NA and joined chat clients with them, exchanged e-mails; even started making phone calls to one dude. All without the need for Steam. Steam is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Now as for origin. It is absolutely no different than Steam, for me. Today as it stands both do exactly the same things, for me. They make it unnecessary for me to place a physical copy of a title in my machine. They are the DRM and they are the "store." All the rest I don't really need. The whole 100 friend limit vs the 300 friend limit reminds me of teenage girls on Facebook! And yes o.k. the black UI of Steam is cooler looking than the orange of Origin. I really think Origin needs to re work their UI soon as most consumers do buy their cars based on color....eh?

Do I have a point here. Maybe not.redface.gif I just think that the introduction of Orgin and exclusive Origin titles may not be a bad thing at all. It appears any chance of going back to putting disc's into my machine is a pipe dream. Heck, at most places I shop you have no selection of PC games anyways. People are fickle and their addiction to Steam is strong. (Do not mess with a man's addiction!) This Gabe dude makes me sick. He is a PR man for sure. To assume that he is not as interested in the bottom line as the execs at EA is naive. Statements like "EA is out to rob every customer blind, they don't give a crap about what we think" are absurd. Origin offers competition to Steam and it is about time that that hoylier than thou fat bugger had some. In my opinion most peoples arguments against Origin are irrational, simply based on emotion. It works as well as Steam ever did and the only catching up it has to do is in the realm of Public Relations, in which it is failing horribly.

God. Am I actually defending any of these guys. Please don't call me fanboy. biggrin.gif
Cheers.

Edit: The link I posted was simply to show that a Google search can tell you anything you want to hear. You just have to be gullible enough to believe it.
Edited by Addict1973 - 4/24/12 at 7:48pm
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Hmm lets do an honest comparison.

I have CSS and whenever I try to find a server ingame no servers are found, this has been happening for almost a year now with no fix, when I search for servers in the steam list it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't, also all source games crash for me with the HL2.exe has stopped working. While BF3 only used to briefly crash after some patch, but has stopped crashing. Stop labelling your own problems with the game has widespread for everyone, I can easily label my problems with CSS and Source games as widespread problems but im not ignorant.

Also are you really claiming that CS, CSS is vastly different while calling COD the same thing over again? Every cod game despite coming out every year changes way more things and adds more things than CS does to its sequels and COD is a game which people generally think of repetitive. Also not everyone is into the competitive scene, not everyone wants to play the same game over again just because they mastered the first one and doesnt want things to change (CS GO). Or play the same desert village that people have been playing for last 10 years. The competitive gaming crowd is a minority.


If you can't find any servers then you're doing it wrong. Sorry to say, it's not something Valve needs to fix, it's something you need to figure out. Read the post you're quoting again and maybe you'll understand it a little bit better the second time around.

What am I claiming about CS versus CS:S? It's simple. Why it is essentially the same game, the mechanics and game play are completely different. The maps, while similar, are different as well. The engines are different. They are the same game, but two vastly and completely different versions of it.

While COD on the other hand, since practically MW2, has not received any serious game engine changes. No radically different weapons, one or two new modes to play on, some weird cash system and betting thing, and yet the games across the board from MW2 to MW3 are essentially the same, all around the board, from mechanics to game engine.

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You're just proving our point.
People need to stop citing that thing as proof of anything....

while they aren't perfect they have better track record for treating their customers right plain and simple.


my whole hang up isn't that i hate origin but, that i have amassed such a large number of game i can't keep track of them all, all the time and i DEMAND that all my games be in one place under one account. Yeah I said that i DEMAND but, oh i'm a "whiny cry baby blah blah" or "quit being so picky" or "that doesn't even matter" last time i check it's my money and i earned it.

I'am getting off topic i think though Valve isn't perfect but has better track record as i have said they also release products with more time, care and thought put into them rather rush developers with crunch time. EA has published a lot of buggy games, the publisher has the right to push developers to meet a certain date however this comes at a cost and it seems a lot more apparent in EA published games. I'm gonna site a some sources. That kind of my other hang up on EA they really push developer harder than should IMHO, they also have track record for running games in the ground and i'm pretty sure it isn't all the developers fault I think it is 50/50 between the publisher and dev. So i guess what i'm saying is, Valve fosters an honest positive atmosphere for devs rather than pushing dead lines.

actually i'm not because they have to much content to cherry pick right now, source. . .

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Cleaned and Reopened...Please get back ontopic

Thanks
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