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I'm sorry guys, but Steam's success proved to EA that it's O.K to control every aspect of our gaming. You all voted with your wallets, and now we're paying for it.
Blame the pirates they say.... rolleyes.gif

Steam's DRM really isn't that bad. I've never had a problem with it. That being said, I've never had a problem with Origin either, but I only own BF3 on Origin (BFBC2 as well, but that's a Steam copy that was double activated on Origin and Steam) and I rarely ever play that.
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Steam's DRM really isn't that bad. I've never had a problem with it. That being said, I've never had a problem with Origin either, but I only own BF3 on Origin (BFBC2 as well, but that's a Steam copy that was double activated on Origin and Steam) and I rarely ever play that.

I've had my run-ins with both (DRM doesn't like me).

I really moan and groan out of principle though. The industry is just going to continue to become more locked down, and it's very frustrating.
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Never had a problem with Steam. My only problem with Steam is the sales! Too many good games bought at a discount and little time to play them all. tongue.gif
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Never had a problem with Steam. My only problem with Steam is the sales! Too many good games bought at a discount and little time to play them all. tongue.gif

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I agree. Those awesome holiday/summer sales are a bane in my side. No matter though, I have to be the old curmudgeon. I got too much h8terade left not to use it tongue.gif.

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I find Origin more stable than Steam although the only game I have on Origin is BF3. Also, some games on Steam like TF2 load ridiculously slow for me.
    
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I find Origin more stable than Steam although the only game I have on Origin is BF3. Also, some games on Steam like TF2 load ridiculously slow for me.

Tf2 only loads slow for me the first time I load into a server
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tongue.gif.
I agree. Those awesome holiday/summer sales are a bane in my side. No matter though, I have to be the old curmudgeon. I got too much h8terade left not to use it tongue.gif.
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The popularity of H8terade has plummeted in recent years. I believe everyone is getting krunk on pimp juice these days... food for thought? thinking.gif
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I have nothing against origin, I have everything against EA's horrible customer service. Then again I've heard Valves customer service isn't that great either, but I've never had to use them which is what I look for.
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Even if a company implements always on drm, I don't want an external client. It's annoying, especially if every major game company starts doing this and you end up with like 5 clients or something.
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Well, firstly when Valve makes a mistake or screw-up, they promptly fix it and Gabe personally apologizes to the community for it. Secondly, everyone praises Valve because they have been good to their customers. They don't screw them over at every chance they get (EA, Activision, Ubisoft, the list goes on...). I hate EA for numerous reasons, but the one thing I really cannot stand about them is that they force their stupid online pass onto all of their games. When I go out to rent a game, I can't access the multiplayer or even do some stuff that's crucial to the single player experience (EMS for Mass Effect 3) without purchasing the game or an online pass. It's ridiculous and just way to treat customers. mad.gif

EA fixes mistakes all of the time, too - you just don't see it happen because they don't make a big spectacle about it.

Valve is all about PR. They want it to be known that they issued a big fix, rather than just having someone download a patch before playing a game again with no real announcement. This reinforces the stereotype that Valve cares about its customers magnitudes more than anyone else. Meanwhile, all of the other studios are silently issuing hundreds of patches to make gameplay as smooth as possible without interrupting you.

There are, what, three games Valve has released on consoles that have an online mode? Meanwhile, EA, Activision, and all of the studios you love to hate publish hundreds of games and are trying to reclaim the money lost from used games sales. They're a business. Get over the fact that they're trying to get money. That's what all businesses do and that's what you'd do in the same situation.
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