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post #261 of 372
Nope. Though, it entirely depends on the sensor model.
post #262 of 372
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

It feels that way because the wheel bounces as you scroll. The AM feels a lot better because it doesn't do that in a way to affect it. The way the mold is designed allows the shaft of the scroll wheel to move, creating that weird feeling. Or it could be lack of lubrication, like I had with the AM.
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It doesn't matter if you send it back. It will be the same with any EC.

Thanks much for the infos - I'll have a look under the hood to see if it can be stabilized/etc.
post #263 of 372
Yep - there are two protrusions on the inside of the top shell whose sole purpose seems to be keeping the wheel from moving out of its cradle.
I'm guessing the wide one (which retains the clear side of the wheel's axle) is a tad short. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Might try extending it a bit with epoxy.
post #264 of 372
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Originally Posted by Narbotic View Post

Yep - there are two protrusions on the inside of the top shell whose sole purpose seems to be keeping the wheel from moving out of its cradle.
I'm guessing the wide one (which retains the clear side of the wheel's axle) is a tad short. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Might try extending it a bit with epoxy.

The one on the mouse 1 side is supposed to keep the shaft from moving upward, which would cause missed scrolls if it does. The other one on the mouse two area is not nearly as important -- it has the same function -- mainly for a more consistent feel.

The problem with the middle section of the shell is those extensions are done poorly. Nearly nonfunctional. So if you can add material to them and shape it to the shaft (like a DeathAdder) the wheel will feel and work much better. Also adding some lubrication to the inner area of the wheel, the clear plastic the rubber is wrapped on, it will help with friction. Use the kind that will not harm plastic. You can use a very small screw driver to aid in removing the left shaft, where the small holes are, near the clear plastic area.

It's a rather complicated wheel to implement. A lot of variables that can go wrong when using this design.

The mechanical wheel has fewer things to worry about. Such as the thin shaft and keeping the right side in place. Well until the scroll wheel wears out...
post #265 of 372
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Originally Posted by popups 
In the end it doesn't really matter because they don't make these sensors anymore.

While the post is quite old, Razer was just recently supplied with a "custom" variant. 3060 was technically never removed under Avago control. Just saying wink.gif
Edited by Skylit - 2/11/13 at 12:39am
post #266 of 372
I haven't tried this with the EC yet, because I don't want to change the mouse feet. However, I think it will be useful, considering the wheel in the AM and FK are the same. It should fix the EC scroll wheel.



There are two springs that will likely varying in strength. Find the one that feels best and use it for scrolling down.

The clear plastic piece, with the indents, can be lubricated to smoothen out the feel. Use a lubricant that is safe for plastic. Make sure not to get lubricant inside the area the shaft goes into because the lubricant will prevent the shaft from fulling seating.

To fix the issue with the scroll wheel, use some medium thick tape, wrap it around the rear leg. Cut the tape so it is cleanly wrapped and to the length of the mold. Do not go to thick, you risk breaking something, use just enough to make the clip "stick" inside the mold via the pressure of the tape.



When assembling the shaft into the wheel you can remove any gap / play between the wheel assembly and the mold. Do this by not pressing it all the way in. Careful! You need to leave some room for when you press the scroll wheel button, if you do not, you could break the shell.

Before placing the wheel back into the mouse you may want to lubricate the contact areas of the wheel and shell.
Edited by popups - 2/23/13 at 2:07am
post #267 of 372
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Make sure not to get lubricant inside the area the shaft goes into because the lubricant will prevent the shaft from fulling seating.
This here is the reason why my scroll didn't always register. After I made sure that the shaft was put in all the way the scroll hasn't missed a single notch.
post #268 of 372
Am I the only one here whose ec1 mouse(technically same as ec2) has very poor perfect control speed and the mouse starts disconnecting when you move the mouse faster than it can handle it? I have tried two different ec1(both had different s/n), but there were no difference. I tested both of these with the Corepad Deskpad(which is basically bigger steelseries qck-like mousepad) and Puretrak Talent and both mice kept disconnecting and sometimes I had to unplug the mouse from the computer because it jammed completely. Also tried changing usb port and a different computer aswell as different dpi levels and polling rates with no luck. I have tried razer deathadder and logitech g400 and I had no problems playing with them with these mousepads and with the 50cm/360 sensitivity.

So much for the "stable" sensor.
post #269 of 372
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Am I the only one here whose ec1 mouse(technically same as ec2) has very poor perfect control speed and the mouse starts disconnecting when you move the mouse faster than it can handle it? I have tried two different ec1(both had different s/n), but there were no difference. I tested both of these with the Corepad Deskpad(which is basically bigger steelseries qck-like mousepad) and Puretrak Talent and both mice kept disconnecting and sometimes I had to unplug the mouse from the computer because it jammed completely. Also tried changing usb port and a different computer aswell as different dpi levels and polling rates with no luck. I have tried razer deathadder and logitech g400 and I had no problems playing with them with these mousepads and with the 50cm/360 sensitivity.

So much for the "stable" sensor.

no, sadly you are not the only one.
i had like maybe 4 zowie EC2 eVos yet.
and each of them had anykind of flaw.
the first two had a broken scrollwheel (one didn't scroll up correctly, one wheelclick didnt work)
the third had a broken mouse 2 button.
and the last one had exactly the same problem you described, which the other ones didn't have.
if i moved my mouse fast from left to right or the other way around.
the cursor/crosshair stopped moving, for maybe 2 seconds. within this time the mouse also didn't recognize anykind of mousebutton clicks (mouse1,mouse2,scroll etc).
was like dead. after the two seconds it worked again until the next fast swipe. but it wasnt even that fast. more a normal speed honestly.
at least i didn't had to unplug the mouse, like you have to. i would go for a RMA if i were you. thats not normal for this sensor/mouse.
post #270 of 372
Does the EC2 have issues on colored pads?
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