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Photoshop Elements is fine for the average consumer.
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Adobe has Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements both of which are under $100. Everything else they make is not intended for average consumers.

Here let me rephrase that i think I misworded my post. I think its kinda expensive for an average hobbyist who uses photoshop, I dont use this on a professional level to make any money I got a discounted copy from one of my teachers and its still expensive for me to upgrade to a newer version I wish the software wasnt so expensive.

edit by average I mean someone with a not so large disposable income.
Edited by Onex - 4/25/12 at 9:27pm
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Photoshop Elements is fine for the average consumer.
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Adobe has Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements both of which are under $100. Everything else they make is not intended for average consumers.

Here let me rephrase that i think I misworded my post. I think its kinda expensive for an average hobbyist who uses photoshop, I dont use this on a professional level to make any money I got a discounted copy from one of my teachers and its still expensive for me to upgrade to a newer version I wish the software wasnt so expensive.

edit by average I mean someone with a not so large disposable income.

I can think of a hundred hobbies that cost way more than $50 a mo. How about golf? Dance lessons? Martial arts? Music lessons? Woodworking? If you can't afford a hobby then don't do it. Adobe, for the record, caters to professionals not hobbyists. If you want a free alternative to their software google "free adobe alternatives".
post #103 of 122
Adobe software is considered business software. It's worth whatever businesses can get out of it. Do I wish it was cheaper so I could get it at home? Yes. Does that business model make sense for them? Apparently not.

My office has about 100 licenses for software that's not nearly as complicated as the Adobe suite, and we pay $10,000 per year per user. It's way more than I'd pay to do the same stuff at home, but the $10k is nothing compared to what we get out of it, so we pay the fees.
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Photoshop Elements is fine for the average consumer.
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Originally Posted by Evil Edison View Post

Adobe has Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements both of which are under $100. Everything else they make is not intended for average consumers.

Here let me rephrase that i think I misworded my post. I think its kinda expensive for an average hobbyist who uses photoshop, I dont use this on a professional level to make any money I got a discounted copy from one of my teachers and its still expensive for me to upgrade to a newer version I wish the software wasnt so expensive.

edit by average I mean someone with a not so large disposable income.

I can think of a hundred hobbies that cost way more than $50 a mo. How about golf? Dance lessons? Martial arts? Music lessons? Woodworking? If you can't afford a hobby then don't do it. Adobe, for the record, caters to professionals not hobbyists. If you want a free alternative to their software google "free adobe alternatives".

http://www.gimp.org/

or you know the T word. wink.gif
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I can think of a hundred hobbies that cost way more than $50 a mo. How about golf? Dance lessons? Martial arts? Music lessons? Woodworking? If you can't afford a hobby then don't do it. Adobe, for the record, caters to professionals not hobbyists. If you want a free alternative to their software google "free adobe alternatives".

lol you be hatin' on the po' people. Didnt say I cant afford it, I just thought it would be a nice idea to have it cheaper which seems to be quuuite an unpopular idea here for some reason rolleyes.gif. I enjoy the features and interface of Photoshop then any other alternative out there. I only use gimp when I need to bring it along to a computer that does not have photoshop.
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I don't think anyone would be against it being cheaper, that'd be pretty silly as a consumer, but I completely understand why it is priced the way it is. $50 actually isn't too bad for a hobby. I hardly make any money off my photography stuff and put in way more than that. I'd say a fair bit of people on this site put $50 a month into their rigs as well.
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I don't think anyone would be against it being cheaper, that'd be pretty silly as a consumer, but I completely understand why it is priced the way it is. $50 actually isn't too bad for a hobby. I hardly make any money off my photography stuff and put in way more than that. I'd say a fair bit of people on this site put $50 a month into their rigs as well.

Indeed, Im still eyeballing the master suite, but damn with that price tag I think its about a months worth of salary.
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If I could afford to outright purchase a newer Photoshop and tools I would, trust me. Thankfully what old licenses I did get back at university suit me just fine even if outdated.

People don't seem to understand this is BUSINESS pricing. Premiere Pro / After Effects / Photoshop are the standard. It's not even the most expensive pro software out there! For example, a single-seat copy of 3ds Max is close to $4,000. Other software varies as well but they're all pretty expensive for the average user.

If you have to complain about how it's overpriced, well, that's certainly valid - it is certainly not cheap. But if you have to complain that said software has no features that wouldn't help you in a pro environment then please, go find consumer software to do what you want. The businesses meanwhile that know their productions or other tasks will net them far more money than the software so either they obviously don't mind paying or are just being extremely budget conscious to not buy.

I'm relatively in the middle here. While I've certainly had chances to use Adobe's pro tools many times, I find a mix of consumer software (aside from Photoshop) that can do most of what I need, most of the time. When I do need advanced editing, then yeah I'll go to Photoshop or other tools. But in my case, $2-3K is a fairly significant portion of my budget. For many businesses however, it's nothing at all. A $50/mth option sounds quite nice for small to mid-sized studios though. In my case I'd really evaluate where that 2-3K could go... bills and payments, another camera, maybe a lens (two if I'm even lucky) or... software.

It all depends on how vital the software is for your operation to function. if you're dead in the water without it (say a video production company), then you simply have to pay the price. But then again the same goes with L-class lenses, cameras, and our crazy rigs on here!
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lol you be hatin' on the po' people. Didnt say I cant afford it, I just thought it would be a nice idea to have it cheaper which seems to be quuuite an unpopular idea here for some reason rolleyes.gif. I enjoy the features and interface of Photoshop then any other alternative out there. I only use gimp when I need to bring it along to a computer that does not have photoshop.

Well, I wish they'd make Porsche's cheaper too. Not much chance of that so I guess I'm stuck with my Sentra smile.gif Adobe makes premium software and they price it accordingly.
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Whoever needs it, needs it.
I get by fine with Gimp and cheap Lightroom.
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