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I just want to point out that it is $50 a month is only if you sign up for an annual subscription. It is $75 on a per month basis.
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Not even the hobbiest to be honest. Starting out photographers have previously had a hard time getting that kind of money without the software, creating a catch 22. But the new pricing scheme works out VERY well. 3 years of paying a subscription is like having bought it... and in 3 years there'll be CS7 with new features. So, thinking about this again it makes more sense to subscribe than to buy for almost everyone.
But yeah this new subscription (changing my mind here) seems to work out a lot better for everyone. If a budding photographer can find £20 they can get PS CS6 for a month, do a job and potentially earn a few hundred quid. I'm not usually for subscription models for software but this works very well and is priced great.

Adobe just wants its products to be the standard and try to monetize later once people are good enough to have a career using their products. Subscription model is how they can monetize from small businesses.
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$2,600? Is this some kind of joke?
Not to mention $50/month subscription. Who does Adobe think they are? EA?
The price of previous creative suits was putting me off getting it. I don't care how good it is, I'm not paying more than $80 for something I could get for free and mod is slightly to make it the same.

I just did a company's PC's in NYC ~ 20 fully custom PC's ~ They paid for every single PC to have the full suite ~ Considering they're a magazine and each computer was for someone in production, it was obviously warranted.

Do the math...While they did get a slight discount...It was still a hefty chunk of change...Would you rather pay 2600$/pc or 50$/month/pc?

Adobe is by far the best suite available for media editing ~ While the death of flash is imminent, the death of their product, will never be because of how good it actually is.

There is no replacing Lightroom...InDesign...Photoshop...I mean, these are icons of an entire industry.

What this "rent" does is very important...It takes all of the businesses that are/have been pirating the software and it gives them an affordable option + constant service...It also opens the door for new businesses to use the product as opposed to the "hack jobs" they have been using (I could point out a couple ads atm but, I'll refrain) ~

Bottom line is that they're appealing to an entirely new market and it's very serious business...For 50$/month the amount of business they'll reap from this move is absolutely crazy.

It was a brilliant idea.
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....it is $2600 today. That is CS5 is already $2600 so the same price for CS6 is nothing unusual.
The $50/month is ANOTHER payment option.
Please read the article and understand how professional software is priced (AutoCAD, MATLAB, RHEL, etc).
You cannot get anything like CS6 free legally. You cannot mod anything to even come close to ifs feature set. If you think you can, you do not use advanced features to warrant even needing it then.

Right on sir. ~ If you guys think Adobe is overpriced? CAD is a whole different ballgame.
post #63 of 122
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Maya, 3DSmax, ZBrush, Photoshop etc should all cost 59.99$.

I paid $3k for 3dsMax 2.5 in 1997. Photoshop 3 in 1994 was $600. Maya, Max, PS make every game you play. They don't come cheap, nor does the labor.
post #64 of 122
@Duckie It's always amusing when the commoners complain about the price of professional software, just let it go and smile and wave bud, just smile and wave lmaosmiley.gif

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This subscription model isn't new either, CS5 was available on a monthly basis as well.

@Rubers

As for the student addition being paid unlike Autodesk's free offerings, there's some differences in the licensing agreements notably this
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How is the Student Version Different?

Are there restrictions on functionality of the software that I get on the Education Community?
No. The software you get from the Autodesk Education Community is the full-featured, sophisticated software used by professionals all around the world. However, there may be a watermark on output that indicates the design was created using an Educational copy and was not purchased for legal Commercial use.

Does the software that I get on the Education Community “timeout” after a period of time?
Yes. The software you get from the Autodesk Education Community comes with a 36 month license.

It's not like Autodesk is just giving its software away because you're a student.
When you buy a student edition of PS, you're getting the full fledged version, watermark free, that never expires. There's nothing stopping you from going ahead and using that "student version" professionally in contravention of the EULA, not like Adobe is going to hunt you down - tho that would be unethical.

Don't use PS professionally? Use 1/10th of the featurs? Can't afford it? There's PS Elements, that costs about $60
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@Duckie It's always amusing when the commoners complain about the price of professional software, just let it go and smile and wave bud, just smile and wave lmaosmiley.gif

It is the same thing with hardware too.... wink.gif A HP single-socket servers costs $2K ...or a IBM AIX server costs $300K ...or Sun Server costs $80K.


I wish people would understand that consumer world is different from enterprise hardware and professional/industry software
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I think the cost of most enterprise software can be justified, but Adobe's stuff is hardly "enterprise." Everyone and their uncle seems to have a pirated copy of Photoshop, Flash Pro and Dreamweaver on their computer. It's funny how Adobe caters to the professional segment, but their actual userbase (when you include piracy) has a lot of casual users. This is why I believe the price for Adobe's software specifically is redonkulous. They would sell quite a few more copies of Master Collection if it were $199, given how many casuals use it.

 

 

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Also GIMP sucks.

 

 

By contrast, I don't see casuals using software like MATLAB. Nobody I know even knows what that is. Or AutoCAD, or RHEL...


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I think the cost of most enterprise software can be justified, but Adobe's stuff is hardly "enterprise." Everyone and their uncle seems to have a pirated copy of Photoshop, Flash Pro and Dreamweaver on their computer. It's funny how Adobe caters to the professional segment, but their actual userbase (when you include piracy) has a lot of casual users. This is why I believe the price for Adobe's software specifically is redonkulous. They would sell quite a few more copies of Master Collection if it were $199, given how many casuals use it.

By contrast, I don't see casuals using software like MATLAB. Nobody I know even knows what that is. Or AutoCAD, or RHEL...

Adobe comes down incredibly hard on businesses when it comes to pirating and they don't do so in the public eye.

If you're a production company and caught pirating by Adobe ~ It's very bad.

So while "everyone and their uncle" may have a pirated copy...Most companies certainly won't risk it, especially those that actually use Adobe professionally...

So, this is actually incorrect...And I, having once been the target of Adobe, strongly disagree that there's no professional consequence.

The 50$/75$ will change the market dramatically...Especially in regards to their market share.
post #68 of 122
Most of the people who pirated Photoshop aren't going to pay $199 for Photoshop anyways. And the increase in sales, let's assume 20% of pirates who'd actually pay for it, is not going to offset the loss in revenue from selling a product >90% cheaper to their usual customer base. You pay for premium content. Adobe knows their customer base very well. Their usual customers are going to pay the full cost of the fully featured software no matter what the price. Their in-house economists and planners know what their software is worth to their customers and are pricing it the way they see fit to achieve maximum profit. They are a for-profit business after all.

It sucks for the average joe who'd like to use the full Photoshop suite, but that is why they offer Elements and now this Cloud subscription ($30 for students). I don't see casuals who need photoshop anyways. GIMP isn't the best software alternative out there, but it gets 90% of the average jobs done. Maybe the interface is off-putting for some people. But I still use it and Paint.NET because I don't have the need for Photoshop's feature set nor do I condone pirating.

Maybe in the future I'll take advantage of this cloud subscription and have a list of pictures I want to do more professionally and get them all done in a month and then unsubscribe instead of having to purchase the product full price. Money saved.
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I think the cost of most enterprise software can be justified, but Adobe's stuff is hardly "enterprise." Everyone and their uncle seems to have a pirated copy of Photoshop, Flash Pro and Dreamweaver on their computer. It's funny how Adobe caters to the professional segment, but their actual userbase (when you include piracy) has a lot of casual users. This is why I believe the price for Adobe's software specifically is redonkulous. They would sell quite a few more copies of Master Collection if it were $199, given how many casuals use it.

You make the same mistake that Hollywood makes.... You assume a sale loss due to pirating equate to a sale lost otherwise. Most pirates do NOT buy the legal version regardless of price point.

Adobe does offer consumer versions of most of their software. I actually got PS Elements last week from Newegg for $40 shipped. Did all those pirates go out buy it and remove their copy? Do most pirates use more than the base features?

How many production studios do you know that are running pirated software and leaving liable? If Adobe found out, they could take a huge portion of any revenue since they can prove the product was made mostly on their product.
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