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What about a bundle that includes PS, Flash, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, After Effects and Premiere Pro?

Your argument is hinges on causal users. However, how many non-professionals are developing complex websites or developing Flash applications?

I think it is safe to say the vast majority of Adobe users utilize Photoshop with Premiere coming in a distant second. (Of course, I am not including running Flash or read PDFs). Adobe addressed this demand with Elements.

If a lot of people started doing Flash design (ha ha!), I am sure Adobe would come out with a limited feature/lower priced Flash Elements as well.
Edited by DuckieHo - 4/24/12 at 8:49am
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Just saying that perception is opinion is all, nothing more nothing less. I do agree they are the best at what they do and this offers value for the little guy.
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Opps double post.
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Just saying that perception is opinion is all, nothing more nothing less. I do agree they are the best at what they do and this offers value for the little guy.

Yes, but opinions based on limited knowledge and cannot quantify claims or support their statements are weaker. Everyone has a right to an opinion but not all opinions carry the same weight... or are even valid.


I believe companies generally do not do things "just because." They are rational entities. Adobe can derived pricing curves.
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@Duckie It's always amusing when the commoners complain about the price of professional software, just let it go and smile and wave bud, just smile and wave lmaosmiley.gif
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This subscription model isn't new either, CS5 was available on a monthly basis as well.
@Rubers
As for the student addition being paid unlike Autodesk's free offerings, there's some differences in the licensing agreements notably this
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How is the Student Version Different?
Are there restrictions on functionality of the software that I get on the Education Community?
No. The software you get from the Autodesk Education Community is the full-featured, sophisticated software used by professionals all around the world. However, there may be a watermark on output that indicates the design was created using an Educational copy and was not purchased for legal Commercial use.
Does the software that I get on the Education Community “timeout” after a period of time?
Yes. The software you get from the Autodesk Education Community comes with a 36 month license.
It's not like Autodesk is just giving its software away because you're a student.
When you buy a student edition of PS, you're getting the full fledged version, watermark free, that never expires. There's nothing stopping you from going ahead and using that "student version" professionally in contravention of the EULA, not like Adobe is going to hunt you down - tho that would be unethical.
Don't use PS professionally? Use 1/10th of the featurs? Can't afford it? There's PS Elements, that costs about $60
Yeah but having used those versions I can safely tell you that they don't have the watermark on. It says it "might" but I've never had any assets passed to me that have them included.
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It is the same thing with hardware too.... wink.gif A HP single-socket servers costs $2K ...or a IBM AIX server costs $300K ...or Sun Server costs $80K.
I wish people would understand that consumer world is different from enterprise hardware and professional/industry software

I understand perfectly well. I just don't think Adobe understood very well prior to this week. The new subscription model shows them moving in the right direction. I've already started telling people I know about it. Two of them have joined up legitimately. One for the full suite the other for just PS biggrin.gif
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My friend is a graphic designer and uses photoshop all day long making art for clients. He makes 6-figures a year so it is worth for him to purchase it.
If you are just a hobbyist, the price is not worth it for you.

This.

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Let's do the maths....
U$D2,600 = 52 months (2 years and a half) of paying U$D50 monthly
110% worth it thumb.gif
Thanks Adobe!

This again.

I make an avg of 300 a client. One client more than pays for the monthly coat.
Full access for $50 is a great deal.
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This is a great deal. People who think Photoshop is worth $60 at most need to get a reality check. Professional level software for $60? What a joke. I guarantee you anyone who thinks that PS is worth $60 hasn't used more than 10% of Photoshop's capability. You'd be better off using Photoshop Elements which costs around $60
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I just did a company's PC's in NYC ~ 20 fully custom PC's ~ They paid for every single PC to have the full suite ~ Considering they're a magazine and each computer was for someone in production, it was obviously warranted.
Do the math...While they did get a slight discount...It was still a hefty chunk of change...Would you rather pay 2600$/pc or 50$/month/pc?
Adobe is by far the best suite available for media editing ~ While the death of flash is imminent, the death of their product, will never be because of how good it actually is.
There is no replacing Lightroom...InDesign...Photoshop...I mean, these are icons of an entire industry.
What this "rent" does is very important...It takes all of the businesses that are/have been pirating the software and it gives them an affordable option + constant service...It also opens the door for new businesses to use the product as opposed to the "hack jobs" they have been using (I could point out a couple ads atm but, I'll refrain) ~
Bottom line is that they're appealing to an entirely new market and it's very serious business...For 50$/month the amount of business they'll reap from this move is absolutely crazy.
It was a brilliant idea.
Right on sir. ~ If you guys think Adobe is overpriced? CAD is a whole different ballgame.

I was speaking for myself. I worded that post terribly, especially the "I could get for free and mod is slightly to make it the same." part. What I meant was I could get similar software for free and mod to slightly to get it to work properly with the things I need doing. I only really use the magic wand select took, eraser and occasionally the text tool. I know that big businesses in media (especially companies like the one you are talking about) could save a lot of money overall using the Adobe suite over using open source versions of what comes in the Adobe suite. I'm not 100% sure what Lightroom or InDesign is because I have never used them but I have used other things from the suite like Dreamweaver, PS, Illustrator and Flash Builder at my college. They are worth the money if you use them to make money, but not for me. Which is why I said I would never spend more than $80 on something like this.
    
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I was speaking for myself. I worded that post terribly, especially the "I could get for free and mod is slightly to make it the same." part. What I meant was I could get similar software for free and mod to slightly to get it to work properly with the things I need doing. I only really use the magic wand select took, eraser and occasionally the text tool. I know that big businesses in media (especially companies like the one you are talking about) could save a lot of money overall using the Adobe suite over using open source versions of what comes in the Adobe suite. I'm not 100% sure what Lightroom or InDesign is because I have never used them but I have used other things from the suite like Dreamweaver, PS, Illustrator and Flash Builder at my college. They are worth the money if you use them to make money, but not for me. Which is why I said I would never spend more than $80 on something like this.

Professionally speaking -- I use the entire suite...From Dreamweaver, Lightroom, InDesign, CS5...And even though Flash is a dying breed, you can't beat it.

I mean as a college student, I understand where you're coming from ~ It's too expensive...And you can really accomplish all that you do in Elements (no offense meant).

For a developer, there's absolutely no replacement for production ~ Realistically, nothing comes close to having the full package and as of late, Quark is a disaster.

This "leasing" especially the way that Adobe is doing it, in my opinion, will change the way "we" do business...It gives the small business man, a real option to professionally represent themselves development wise which, is an incredible step forward.

The development costs of these products, alone, is staggering...So it's not like Adobe is Merrill Lynch here...They're using the generated income to further their product and they're furthering it substantially...
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There is a little coin in video also. Check the price on a 30 second commercial. $50k and up. Makes $50 a month look foolish.

AfterEffects, Premier and Soundbooth CS5.5 make the suite and alone are worth $2500+ change imo.
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