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Hey OP you can add one more link - Ivy Bridge Debuts: Intel Core i7-3770K Review - TechSpot

4.9Ghz @ 1.52v? What kind of temps where they getting lol?
Nothing about Temps or Power Consumption in OC mode.
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Sometimes it's worth upgrading sometimes not, I went from a QX9650 at 4.3GHz to a 980x running at only 3.6GHz I gained around 25FPS gaming in tri-sli.

I'm not saying it's worth it all the time, I haven't looked into this chip yet but if I can gain a bunch of FPS it might be if I got $2000 into my video cards wink.gif
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Hey OP you can add one more link - Ivy Bridge Debuts: Intel Core i7-3770K Review - TechSpot

Nice find, Thanks.

The Power Consumption Level of the 3770k at load (Prime95) is less than my i7-920 at idle, and far better than the 3920 both idle and load. Score 1 point for the 3770k in my consideration of upgrading from my 920.


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For those that are worried about heat IVY does not produce any more then SB. Temps have nothing to do with heat in this case. So IVY will not make ur room hotter.
need to prove this by setting max temp in bios to 200C as well as TJmax in RealTemp. Torture it with IBT/LinX/prime95
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Does anybody know what is the IB's max 24/7 temperature?
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Does anybody know what is the IB's max 24/7 temperature?

Probably more then SB. I would say you are fine up 85C. You could also spend extra $20 to get OC warranty from Intel and not worry at all. Really hard to kill CPUs these days.
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So...exactly like I expected, no upgrade for SB owners from a dieshrink. Shock horror.
As for people not running SB, hit 4.8Ghz and you're matching/beating nearly every 24/7 OCed SB out there while using nearly 100w less power, hit 4.6Ghz and you're matching nearly every 24/7 stable SB there is and still beating all the guys below 4.8Ghz and drawing less power. That's worth it for me. For people complaining about temperatures: It can handle those temperatures, it's just a tad high for comfort. And just because they're high doesn't mean it's actually putting out a tonne of heat.
Man people need to actually learn some computing history, die-shrinks and new architectures always suck hard compared to the previous products at first.

What about Q6600 to Q9550?

Going from a 3.6Ghz OC which was considered good for Q6600 to 4.0Ghz OC for Q9550 which was average while running much cooler and using less power. On top of that much higher IPC increase. All it takes a 200Mhz extra OC on SB to be as fast as IVY and looking at overclocking results thats exactly the extra Mhz SB Overclocks more. Any SB can get 4.8Ghz if you are not afraid of Voltage. Even with 1.45v i only hit 65C with my CPU. To get 4.8Ghz OC with IVY you are ~ 20C higher temps and after that its not possible. In short IVY is not even close to what people expected here on OCN.

A few Q6600s hit 4Ghz or close to it too, but you'll find most Q6600 owners either kept their CPU or bought a Q9xx0 late game. And seriously, the thermal density is a lot higher. It may actually run cooler in terms of TDP when OCed but it has less surface to get that heat out. I was expecting IB to be roughly where it is too. Not to mention, Wolfdale was an unusually awesome die-shrink. Usually they're pretty meh to begin with. Hence my comment about computing history, Prescott to Cedar Mill, Coppermine to Tualatin, etc. All were pretty meh for owners of the former. IB is actually pretty good by a die-shrinks standards, you gain some performance that is noticeable. It's just like SB was..Haswell will probably be a let down because I can nearly guarantee it won't make as big of a performance increase as SB did from Nehalem, at least it won't in all likelihood.

And get IB to 4.6Ghz and it'll match or beat that 4.8Ghz SB with less power used. That's the point here.
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10% perf boost over 2600k clock for clock?

I'll pass. Not worth $313 or whatever they're asking. if you're running a 1st-gen i7 it would be a great upgrade (low power, low temps, good OC), but not for that small of a jump :/

..It's a die-shrink, herp derp. Unless power matters a lot for you this was never an upgrade path for SB owners.
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So looks like the ib is 250mhz faster then a sandy with them both at stock so that would still lose to a sandy most of the time if it maxes out at 4.4-4.6ghz cause of heat when you can get most sandys to 4.7-5ghz if you dont mind pushing the volts and still stays cool. Great for people that dont overclock and need somthing that uses very low power at stock.

I wasn't aware we all had retail samples of 3570ks and 3770ks to try out...I'm honestly willing to bet that a lot of 3770ks will hit 4.8 easily if people don't worry so much about 80c temperatures. Which is perfectly safe for the CPU, people just stick below 60-70 because it gives more of a threshold for problems. (eg. Fan breaks) Although all CPUs would be fine in that case as they can dynamically undervolt and downclock to prevent damage.
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If your making the decision between IB and SB it would be foolish to go with SB.
1. There is no gurantee any SB chip will even hit 4.5ghz.
2. IB is an improvement on SB by virtually every measure aside from heat, which looks to have been exagerated.
Almost every one of these reviews were able to get their chips to 4.5. Looks to me like the OC headroom is about the same.

Yeah you can hit about same wall with both but IVY will just melt @ 100C.
4.5GHz with SB is a walk in a park.

Not always, some struggle to get above 4.4Ghz.

As for 100c...Most will just hit 70-80 at the voltages required for 4.8Ghz. My GTX 470 was hitting over 100c when it was on air and it didn't negatively affect anything. My i3 370m in my laptop hits 90c too, it's perfectly fine.
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On water most 2500/2600/2700k should hit 4.8ghz no problem but even on water its tough to get a ivvy to 4.8ghz without some isane temps.

Insane temps being? Unless it's over 90c, I wouldn't be worried. Even then, it'll downclock to stop any damage...


The heat issue is really way overblown. You can push a CPU far higher than most here do, and IB would use less power and be faster than a SB at the same clock speed. A 4.8Ghz IB will equal a 5Ghz SB while using less power (Nearly 100w if some reviews are to be believed)
If you've got your CPU cranked up to max all day and pay your power bills, it'd be worth going from SB to IB for that alone. For anyone not on SB, IB is where its at unless you have the specific uses that benefit from Socket 2011.
    
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Anyone knows how PCI-E 3.0 in Ivy Bridge will affect multi-GPU setups? Like 2xHD7970s?
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So coming from a 1st gen i7 would it be better to go with ivy or sb-e for decent OC on air? (nothing crazy)
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Probably more then SB. I would say you are fine up 85C. You could also spend extra $20 to get OC warranty from Intel and not worry at all. Really hard to kill CPUs these days.

I think future IB users should get this warranty if they want to OC.

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As for 100c...Most will just hit 70-80 at the voltages required for 4.8Ghz. My GTX 470 was hitting over 100c when it was on air and it didn't negatively affect anything. My i3 370m in my laptop hits 90c too, it's perfectly fine.
Insane temps being? Unless it's over 90c, I wouldn't be worried. Even then, it'll downclock to stop any damage...
The heat issue is really way overblown. You can push a CPU far higher than most here do, and IB would use less power and be faster than a SB at the same clock speed. A 4.8Ghz IB will equal a 5Ghz SB while using less power (Nearly 100w if some reviews are to be believed)
If you've got your CPU cranked up to max all day and pay your power bills, it'd be worth going from SB to IB for that alone. For anyone not on SB, IB is where its at unless you have the specific uses that benefit from Socket 2011.

I agree, some people are taking the temps too seriously. They could get $20 warranty if they worried about the temps.

Is Guru3D reliable? They got 3770K @4.9GHz on air and they expect some people could get over 5GHz on right chips.
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