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That's fine, and AMD has 12-core Opterons. As for what needs more cores, rendering in any 3D content creation (3D movies like Toy Story, or rendering CAD models).

As for Haswell, nope, it's 4C/8T. Intel isn't a charitable foundation, they'd much rather sell their 6-cores for $600-1000 until AMD matches their multi-threaded performance with Steamroller. http://www.slashgear.com/intel-haswell-shark-bay-detailed-ahead-of-2013-debut-10194496/ 50% faster graphics, slightly bigger die. There's no room for another 2 cores plus an IGP. Maybe Skymont will have mainstream 6-core.

And therein lies an issue. If the only way to justify 8+ cores is to have to be doing something like rendering a movie, then at that point how is that "consumer"? At that level I imagine you could do a "spare no expense" 16 core dual socket / quad socket workstation or a server cluster.

Someone should update the Wiki page on Haswell because it says "Up to 8 cores" but I can't find a source from this year that mentions core count. I figured with 8 core SB-E Xeons being out that they'd bump the mainstream core count up another 2 cores for Haswell. (Ask me in 2 months and I'll let you know for sure wink.gif )

Not really, Photoshop, video encoding (Handbrake, not rendering), etc. Heaps of things are faster on SB-e than SB or even IB.
    
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Cherry picked picture only maybe... Bogus ebay claims to try sell 2500k's and when the buyers can't hit the claimed 5.2ghz as they say it can the seller just says Oh well it's your motherboard holding it back.....

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Sooo... IVB is a waste of money for gamers. Does anyone know when the next tock microarchitecture will arrive?
I plan to upgrade my system around the time NVIDIA's new big-die card comes out. I guess I could just buy the card and then wait for Intel's hardware.
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Hm ... given that the performance is about the same (or even better in some cases on older SB) I think that if one is already on SB then IB is not an sensible investment. Especially considering that no one knows how resilient is this new smaller process to entropy (i.e., if there is any degrading of the chips under the volts and temperatures one is needing for hitting the equal OC).

I would expect even a OC'd chip to last at least 3 years and considering the temps and volts needed for OC on these new chips I'm highly skeptical that they last that time at ~5 GHz area.

Thats the initial reaction - over all the IB consumes a lot less power and still is better than anything AMD is capable of offering atm.
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Wrong .ib is good for multigpu set up .not single gpu set up
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Sooo... IVB is a waste of money for gamers. Does anyone know when the next tock microarchitecture will arrive?
I plan to upgrade my system around the time NVIDIA's new big-die card comes out. I guess I could just buy the card and then wait for Intel's hardware.

Would you kindly tell me how IB is a "waste" of money for gamers?
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It's a waste of money since if you already own SB, you'll not notice any difference in games.
I don't think you'll notice that much difference with X58 systems either, except maybe a couple more FPS...

I hoped for more than this, but truthfully, I didn't expect that much of it.
And that's logical, because as far as I can see, the only thing that changed is 32nm --> 22nm...
 
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what platform should i use for gaming lga 2011 or 1155 ?
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It's a waste of money since if you already own SB, you'll not notice any difference in games.
I don't think you'll notice that much difference with X58 systems either, except maybe a couple more FPS...
I hoped for more than this, but truthfully, I didn't expect that much of it.
And that's logical, because as far as I can see, the only thing that changed is 32nm --> 22nm...

Do you own both systems and have thoroughly tested this? I would think that there is a difference in games, but it depends on the rig, e.g. PCI-e 3 will provide higher frame rates but only with 2 cards.

And yes, there is a decent difference between Z77 and X58, not just in gaming performance but in functionality.
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what platform should i use for gaming lga 2011 or 1155 ?

1155 with Z77 chipset and an IB processor. No point going for sandy unless you get a great deal.Ivy has much better power consumption and Lucid Virtu MVP
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